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tidho t1_jdw5y5a wrote

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that can't be, Apple uses child labor and doesn't repatriate their overseas earnings. 'Hollywood' wouldn't get in bed with such loathsome characters.

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Saar13 t1_jdw75zh wrote

The only certainty I have regarding the media market is that Hollywood is going to bed with Apple more and more. Apple gives them what they want: "freedom", stability and, most importantly, infinite money.

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tidho t1_jdw7t1j wrote

yeah, that infinite money can be really appealing, even if you have to be a hypocrite to get it.

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givemewhiskeypls t1_jdx9q7r wrote

I’m just curious if you zealously point out the hypocrisy of the other side of the aisle as well

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tidho t1_jdxn47a wrote

first, did you find that 'zealous'?

second, why does that matter? let's say i've never said a bad word about a Republican in my life... does that change the validity of what I said?

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givemewhiskeypls t1_jdxo5ho wrote

You went out of your way to point out something you perceived as hypocritical with a political undertone out of context and in response to a completely apolitical comment. So yeah, I think that hints at some zealotry. And the second part of your question doesn’t make sense, you just said something bad about democrats (in Hollywood) so I wouldn’t be surprised if you never said a bad thing about republicans in your life. My point is that you’re taking pot shots at one side of the aisle out of the clear blue to make a point and I’m asking you if you’re an equal opportunity sniper taking pot shots at republican hypocrisy. It’s an honest question, maybe you are. Maybe you’re a crusader against hypocrisy and if you were, I’d respect that. I suspect that’s not the case but happy to be wrong.

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tidho t1_jdxseu3 wrote

i understand what you're asking me, and i'm telling you it's irrelevant.

i did 'take a shot' at hollywood hypocrisy. if you want to tag that as political go ahead i guess, it's adjacent maybe. Was really commentary on how that tend to be preachy rather than about any specific political issue.

if you want to talk "crusader", shall we discuss your apparent need to rush in to their defense with your 'please sir, tell me you are the Republican operative I hope you will be, so i can attack the messenger rather than have to address the message', lol.

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givemewhiskeypls t1_jdxu5j0 wrote

Oh I’m just crusading against bullshit one shot at a time like you, I guess…

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tidho t1_jdzue78 wrote

so you disagree about the Hollywood hypocrisy I mentioned?

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TchoupedNScrewed t1_jdxv66n wrote

There have been instances of China essentially barring earnings from leaving the country. It’s also in many cases an investment to begin manufacturing there since you’re often responsible for machinery especially if it’s specialized. This means you either leave your machines or they just copy everything when you move out. This isn’t to defend Apple though, I’m more so saying they’re attempting to move to even cheaper labor markets, but they have to do it slowly without rocking the boat too much. Workers rights in China are still a joke in many cases, but there have been some improvements in factory quality and worker protections. There are even more exploitable places Apple wants to access.

Realistically China has gotten to ethical and expensive to product Apple products there. They want somewhere more exploitable.

Nike has the same issue, but to an exaggerated affect. Sure the factory probably doesn’t have or can’t work with the same material supplier Nike used, but they can get damn close. There are some insane quality fakes out there.

China has also been looking to shift to more specialized forms of manufacturing like semiconductors.

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tidho t1_jdzvx2h wrote

a much simpler argument can be mad, for instance why should the US Government be getting a piece of a transaction that was sourced, manufactured, and sold outside it's borders in the first place?

point is, none of that matters for what i was saying - which was simply highlighting the Hollywood hypocrisy, regardless of how right or wrong they my be on the underlying topic.

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