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vickangaroo t1_itx0vdm wrote

If they were going to pick a Star Trek show, it should have been The Orville New Horizons- and I absolutely loved every moment of SNW (also the rest of ST on TV).

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Locutus747 t1_itzi51l wrote

The Orville isn’t a Star Trek show. It’s like if I said my favorite mcu movie is the Batman.

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vickangaroo t1_itzjjzb wrote

I wasn’t being literal. Seth McFarlane had originally pitched an official Star Trek show, and afterward created The Orville. Both franchises feature mostly human crews of exploratory ships in an intergalactic alien federation dealing with social conflict, politics, alien threats, spatial anomalies and time travel shenanigans.

The Orville is directly inspired and very often an homage to Star Trek, but has built enough of its own universe to tell stories entirely unique to their characters.

They’re sci-fi peas in a pod.

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3thirtysix6 t1_itxmmrj wrote

Why? Orville was shit.

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vickangaroo t1_itxrjwp wrote

I had a hard time getting through the early episodes of The Orville since I wasn’t a big fan of the humor, but it nailed the aesthetic, tone and even commercial break timing of 1990’s Star Trek.

The earlier seasons do lay the foundation for some big character storylines that really blossom into the most emotional and heartfelt science fiction story telling in season 3.

The humor is really cranked down for New Horizons and because every episode was at least 60 minutes, each felt so much bigger than other shows. It’s really worth a watch for folks who like episodic sci-fi but skipped out on live action “Family Guy in space;” it’s genuinely great Star Trek.

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3thirtysix6 t1_itxrugb wrote

Oh fuck, well as long as the 'commercial break timing' is on point.

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vickangaroo t1_itxuncw wrote

It really does add to the 90’s Star Trek vibe, but there is also the quality philosophy and commentary that you’d also expect from a Trek show, just sillier sometimes.

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3thirtysix6 t1_itxy04w wrote

Sounds trash, tbh. I have 90's Trek I don't need the off brand.

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vickangaroo t1_ity552y wrote

I believe that was the exact attitude Original series fans had towards Next Generation fans.

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3thirtysix6 t1_iu0mp1x wrote

I don't know why that matters as this isn't a case of an IP continuing it's own story but a clown trying to milk nostalgia for profit.

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DotHobbes t1_iu0pn4x wrote

LD did a lackluster DS9 episode that literally references the opening is what I'd call milking nostalgia. Or when SNW did Zap Brannigan Kirk just so all those people who have heard of him would recognize it and clap. Is the Orville derivative? Absolutely. But let's not act like Star Trek is a stranger to exploiting nostalgia.

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3thirtysix6 t1_iu0qe2e wrote

Again, so what? Star Trek having bad, nostalgia bait episodes does not mean that I should support another show that makes bad nostalgia bait it's entire identity.

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DotHobbes t1_iu0rvz1 wrote

It's actually a good execution of the formula for the most part. McFarlane is a well known trekkie who has huge respect for the series so I think he's going for more than nostalgia baiting for a quick buck.

On a different note, what is this "supporting shows" thing? I usually just watch them.

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3thirtysix6 t1_iu0sdcb wrote

You're literally trying to get me to watch a show I've stated several times that I do not like and do not want to watch.

You clearly do more than just "watch them".

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DotHobbes t1_iu0zcjm wrote

I am merely stating the fact that your opinion is wrong. It's not bad nostalgia bait, it's a formulaic show that is well executed. Don't behave like a child.

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3thirtysix6 t1_iu10kzg wrote

Take you own advice, sweetheart.

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DotHobbes t1_iu10und wrote

I do, love.

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3thirtysix6 t1_iu10y2d wrote

Then why are you such a clown?

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