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DotHobbes t1_itzdl3u wrote

Reply to comment by TheLouisvilleRanger in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds wins Saturn Award for Best Streaming Sci-fi Series by Shizzlick

that's a dumb way to judge something. Now if the people making it or the actors playing were encouraging asshole-ish behavior that would be a different story. My take as someone who liked SNW is that the Orville is a good show, especially the third season.

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Locutus747 t1_itzhr4r wrote

I have to admit I feel the same way. I did give it a chance when season 1 stated but didn’t like it much. I’ve thought about revisiting it but so many of its fans seem so angry and full of hate and can only compliment their show by putting other shows down it just made me lose interest entirely.

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DotHobbes t1_itzig59 wrote

This is exactly why I never bother with fandoms, not even for stuff that I like (ok maybe except DaystromInstitute, but that's a community with really high standards). As far as the Orville is concerned, I didn't particularly like the humor in seasons 1 and 2, but 3 tones it down a lot and it works for me.

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TheLouisvilleRanger t1_itzeaq8 wrote

I mean, I’m not gonna respect the opinion of a bunch of dweeby capital “G” Gamers. Nor do I want to encourage them. All I know is that their fans were insufferable (particularly early on) gate keepers of Trek. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that they’d put a bad taste in my mouth.

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Locutus747 t1_itzhss3 wrote

I agree with you 100 percent and feel the same way.

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DotHobbes t1_itzfqv1 wrote

yeah lots of morons saw the Orville as GOP Trek I guess, but it's certainly not a bigoted show and the third season is great, imo. I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed SNW (Kirk drift notwithstanding; it is what it is now).

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TheLouisvilleRanger t1_itzi0fy wrote

It’s weird because I never got the impression it was that and I know McFarlane has a ton of respect for Trek. I’ll go to it some day as a binge when things calm down.

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DotHobbes t1_itzj2fs wrote

That's right, it actually makes no sense that bigots gravitated to it, but then again being a conservative and a Trek fan makes no sense in the first place, so who knows how those people's minds work (if they work at all).

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TheLouisvilleRanger t1_itzlb5s wrote

Some people are in it for the pew pews.

There are, of course, people who just wanted the traditional format, a modern Trek has been legitimately flawed in some respect (I’m not too hot on Picard personally). Those people, though, likely aren’t the ones who make it a full time job to whine on the internet.

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DotHobbes t1_itzmgtn wrote

I couldn't finish Picard because I think it's poorly written, but I usually shut up about it in the fear that someone afraid of brown people thinks we're buds.

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TheLouisvilleRanger t1_itzmr0s wrote

I stay away from threads discussing it because the last thing I want to do is tamp down on the fun of people who do enjoy it. I think it’s great that they can.

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Prax150 t1_itzzxd1 wrote

I like most new Trek and think SNW deserved this award, but The Orville, especially this past season, is really, really good as well. New Trek is trying different things (for better or sometimes worse), even when they're rehashing things. The Orville starts as Star Trek Classic, landing on that line between homage and parody, but by S3 it's fully its own thing with the spirit of TNG era trek. Some of the episodes they did in S3 are among the best sci fi I've ever seen.

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