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goatjugsoup t1_iuhrfeh wrote

Like getting an ending or just cancelled?

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RecommendsMalazan t1_iuhs5wk wrote

This is disappointing, it's the only CW show I still watch.

Still, at least they knew enough ahead of time so they could write a proper finale.

Also, now that I'm thinking about this more, it seems kinda odd that they knew beforehand. I definitely got the impression from the past two episodes that they were planning on multiple spin offs - a shade/jade/obsidian show, and an infinity Inc show.

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CptNonsense t1_iuht2d3 wrote

Quelle surprise. This was the safe bet instead of HBOMax taking it in house after both Zaslav took over and this was shunted to the CW - where stuff is shared with CBS paramount, from DCUniverse instead of being brought directly to HBOMax in the first place

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JVortex888 t1_iuhtkkz wrote

Makes sense since The CW is dead.

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bdboar1 t1_iuhug61 wrote

That’s too bad. It was very underrated.

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mikexmachina t1_iuhuqay wrote

Not shocking, but still disappointing. I thought Stargirl should have been the model for all the Arrowverse shows - 13 episodes max, with tighter storytelling and character focus. If only The Flash had fewer episodes per season it might not have gone so dramatically off the rails...

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grimace24 t1_iuhuvwf wrote

Nexstar has cancelled pretty much all scripted shows from the old regime. Walker and Walker Independence are on borrowed time.

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SuspendedInKarmaMama t1_iuhuw60 wrote

That's sad, it's better than any Marvel Disney+ show. Better writing, directing and fight choreography.

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yodimboi t1_iuhwh9p wrote

I'm guessing the same thing will happen with Superman and Lois

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ProtomanBn t1_iuhxco8 wrote

This fucking sucks, im catching up on the last 2 ep now and between this and S&L the CW has nothing for me

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richard1177 t1_iuhy72b wrote

I would like to have seen more seasons of this show, but I'm glad they were told beforehand so we get a proper final. One of the best shows to come out of the Arrowverse, even though it is not directly connected.

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ceaguila84 t1_iui1i1p wrote

Fuck, thid show was good and seemed more like an Hbo Max property

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Clilly1 t1_iui1w3v wrote

What's a"Stargirl"?

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GnarlyBear t1_iui1zc5 wrote

>Historically, shows like Riverdale, All American, Arrow and Supernatural have focused on viewers in their teens through their 30s. The reality, though, is that the average CW viewer is 58 years old.

Explains so much

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HardlineMike t1_iui2csb wrote

People liked to poop on CW shows, but there isn't really anything to take its place either. The major networks are almost entirely sitcoms and procedurals. The other cable channels are a bunch of samey self-serious period dramas. The streaming platforms are the closest thing, but their offerings in genre TV have been all style no substance big budget stuff designed to keep VFX artists busy.

If you want a show that can tell a story, and last more than one season even if its not a blockbuster hit, you really don't have many places to go.

For all the shits we took on the CW, I think a couple years from now after a few more soulless Marvel shows on Disney+, people looking for scifi or superhero stuff are going to miss it.

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TheBlackSwarm t1_iui2xeg wrote

Replying to JVortex888 (#381,733)

Walker and it’s spin off are the only shows that stand a chance because it fits in with the Nextstar target audience and Jared Padalecki has a good relationship with the network.

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dotyawning t1_iui2yjg wrote

Well, that's a shame. I really enjoyed watching Stargirl. I wonder how long it'll take before we see more of the JSA side of things?

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inksmudgedhands t1_iui5jh1 wrote

Replying to JVortex888 (#381,733)

It used to have such a cult following thanks to Supernatural, The Vampire Diaries and Arrowverse. You would go to Comic Con, heck, you would go any of the cons, and there would be CW fans everywhere. Supernatural, alone, was up there with MCU in terms of con popularity. But that's all gone now. It's amazing how quickly it became a husk.

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inksmudgedhands t1_iui6dd9 wrote

Replying to grimace24 (#382,191)

I think the Walker shows are okay because they have more mass appeal. It's the superhero/supernatural genre shows that are being axed. I will be shocked if the Winchesters spin-off gets a second season.

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jimbobdonut t1_iui78ry wrote

Replying to TheBlackSwarm (#384,618)

If they were canceled, I could see Netflix picking them up since both are popular there. It’s possible that the original would have been canceled after its first season, but its popularity on Netflix convinced the CW to renew it.

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TimBobNelson t1_iui98fx wrote

Wait this show is out? It has 3 seasons? I didn’t even think the first tone had aired

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NoNefariousness2144 t1_iuib6p9 wrote

Replying to RecommendsMalazan (#381,292)

It seems like every CW show planned spinoffs. Obviously we got Legends of Tomorrow, but Arrow also planned shows focused on Black Canary and also Oliver Queen’s daughter that never happened. Then there were rumours we would get a Green Lantern show with Diggle, while we may still get the ‘Justice U’ show with Diggle.

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NoNefariousness2144 t1_iuibf8d wrote

Replying to SuspendedInKarmaMama (#382,194)

A sad fact is that the Marvel Disney+ shows are CW shows but with 20 times the budget.

It is unfortunately true. Apart from Wanda and Loki, the Disney+ shows stretch out their plots similar to CW, while following the same trend of a slow start, a huge cliffhanger for episode 4/5, and then an underwhelming finale that barely changes the status quo.

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Watson8555 t1_iuicdjo wrote

Replying to SuspendedInKarmaMama (#385,948)

Stargirl itself is pretty typical superhero tv, at least half of WV was super fresh and never done before in the genre. I think stargirl is solid but I definitely think you’re overrating it some, it’s pretty standard solid superhero fare and that’s about it.

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lightsongtheold t1_iuicreh wrote

Replying to TheBlackSwarm (#384,555)

Walker: Independence is done. Only two shows with a shot of survival are Walker and All American (top shows in viewership and demo) and even their chances are slim.

It will be reality, reruns, cheap imports, and maybe some right wing news. That is the new CW.

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jimbobdonut t1_iuid3bp wrote

Replying to NoNefariousness2144 (#386,975)

I think the odds of the Justice U actually getting made are really low. I don’t think Nexstar wants anymore DC content and Warner wants to move all the DC content to HBO Max or whatever the combined HBO Max/Discovery+ streaming service is called.

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SpookyTupperware t1_iuiez2x wrote

That's sad, Stargirl should never go to CW, HBO Max would be the best like they did with Titans and Doom Patrol, Stargirl it's maybe the best superhero show on air, it's really well done and the cast looks really enjoy being there.

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DeeBased t1_iuifh3b wrote

They didn't say anything in the article about shopping it around, but I hope they do. This seasons theme, Frenemies, has been a really refreshing storyline - filled with hope and second chances and humor.

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ijakinov t1_iuigcmn wrote

Replying to mountainhighgoat (#387,378)

There was a seperate article about this a month or so back. I'm guessing the statistic are just skewed because new shows only air in a certain block of time like (something like 2 hours a day) N/7 days of the week. The vast majoirty of what is shown on the CW are reality shows outside of that block of time. If those out perform the given scripted original programming of the CW, then it very plausible the average age is that high.

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Vadahann t1_iuik1zr wrote

A bit of a shame, it's a very solid show for who is looking for a classic teen superhero show.

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Will33iam t1_iuim4vj wrote

The only thing I watch on CW is who’s line is it anyway

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envynav t1_iuimb34 wrote

Replying to badedum (#388,651)

That's not how viewership ratings work. They ask people of different demographics to track what they watch, then they estimate the total viewership based on the smaller sample size. Even if it's the parents' cable subscription, the younger people being tracked would still count towards the younger demographics.

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TamagotchiMasterRace t1_iuimvhn wrote

Replying to mikexmachina (#382,128)

I was really shocked how much I liked Stargirl. As a lifelong comics fan I'm a pretty dedicated consumer of superhero media, but after Crisis on Infinite Earths on CW i just stopped caring about any of their superhero shows, then stargirl came out on DCUniverse and I was more than happy to follow it back to CW (though if it premiered strictly on CW i may never have started it, assuming it was more mediocre arrowverse content). I'll be disappointed its gone but maybe Titans can absorb some of their writers. I will 100% watch titans, the production quality is high, but the "Titans are a family" while constantly ignoring each other and stabbing each other the back so they can go off and fail miserably on their own is getting extremely tired...

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TamagotchiMasterRace t1_iuinjjy wrote

Replying to yodimboi (#382,680)

I was shocked at how much I love that show. Superman has never resonated with me as a character, but this is the first time in a long time that I understood how superman could seem like an inspiration to their world's native population, and probably the first live action clark kent I've really cared about. I do wish they remembered it was superman and lois and not superman and Lana, she's way too in the mix, and becomes too central while lois is sorta left doing nothing a lot of the time

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Prax150 t1_iuiq7h5 wrote

Replying to ghostgnome (#385,938)

What's annoying is that a big part of it is messaging and the hesitance if not straight up refusal on the part of legacy media companies to adapt. Access to broadcast TV could be simple, free and widespread with minimal effort. Already they make digital antennae you stick to a window that give you access to most broadcast networks in your area. But people just don't know about that, and many don't even know the distinction between broadcast and cable. But why not take it a step further and just make all broadcast TV free and easily accessible, officially, on the internet?

I'm guessing the answer is carriage fees from cable companies but eventually the math on that is going to change as people continue cutting the cord and then these networks are going to lament the missed opportunity for transferring that audience to digital platforms. We should have been able to watch all these channels for free years ago, I think a lot of people would have even gotten used to commercials (Netflix IMO is about to prove that), but people already don't care enough.

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Quarbit64 t1_iuirs3m wrote

Replying to HardlineMike (#384,408)

> The streaming platforms are the closest thing, but their offerings in genre TV have been all style no substance big budget stuff designed to keep VFX artists busy.

Are you kidding? House of the Dragon, Stranger Things, Severance, The Dragon Prince, and The Expanse are top tier shows. Thanks to streaming services, there's no better time to be a genre fan than today.

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LostNewfie t1_iuiur5b wrote

Replying to utocmc2020 (#392,791)

I really enjoyed that season too. I like how the first seven episodes each had call backs to a previous seasons (i.e. episode 3 featured the league of assassins, the main villains from season 3).

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Soji_Juice t1_iuiur75 wrote

Legit thought this show ended after season 1.

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im_a_dick_head t1_iuivz4g wrote

Replying to Clilly1 (#384,294)

"Courtney Elizabeth Whitmore, known as Stargirl, is a superhero created by Geoff Johns and Lee Moder who appears in American comic books published by DC Comics. The character's name, appearance, and personality were patterned after Johns' 18-year-old sister Courtney, who died in the explosion of TWA Flight 800 in 1996"

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HardlineMike t1_iuiwpsg wrote

Replying to Quarbit64 (#392,295)

Yeah, there are a few things to watch, and then you get to sit around holding your dick for 2 years waiting for more, only to have them fuck it up by recasting the main character or a new showrunner ruining everything.

You can get your entire fill of worthwhile content on the streaming platforms by subbing for one month every 2 years.

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MrConor212 t1_iuiwuz7 wrote

The moment Amazon didn’t get season 3 here in U.K. I expected as much tbh

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Uriahheeplol t1_iuiyjkq wrote

Never heard of it.

Stargirl is cool though.

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Roook36 t1_iuj11ks wrote

That sucks. This was a fun show. Wonder if they'll even get a chance to wrap things up this season or if it'll end on a cliffhanger

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Benway23 t1_iuj19bs wrote

Well, I guess the new Babylon 5 show is dead before it started. I will have to give Stargirl a watch.

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keving87 t1_iuj1s17 wrote

There was an interview with Brec Bassinger where she said if the show gets cancelled, it will at least end well and not on a cliffhanger

But this isn't surprising, CW will end soon in general anyway. All their scripted shows have been cancelled or ending, only what, 7 are left now? Those could easily switch to HBO Max or Paramount+. Superman & Lois is probably next, WB wants Superman back in movies and they think there can't be more than one version which shows how stupid they think their fanbase is. If it does go, hopefully it doesn't end on a cliffhanger. Going forward, CW will either be so cheaply made that it won't be worth watching or will be a bunch of junk unscripted stuff.

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Ragnar_Dragonfyre t1_iuj3qi8 wrote

Replying to ghostgnome (#385,938)

TV is dying and it’s being replaced by TikTok…

I’m not looking forward to a future where scripted shows die out and are replaced by badly scripted “reality reels” that pretend to be real.

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donuteater111 t1_iuj5e2b wrote

Not surprising given the CW situation. I'd be more surprised if even a single show gets another season.

Either way, sorry to see it go. It was one of the better CW superhero shows IMO. At least it apparently has an actual ending, and is going out while it's still good.

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AndroidFive t1_iuj79qt wrote

probably shouldn't have removed all the ASS shots

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RedDurden_00 t1_iujcqvk wrote

And Smallville still remains longest running comic book adapted television series and it’s a prequel.

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Ennion t1_iujdvoy wrote

I've never heard of this show and it's in season three.

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aw-un t1_iujfo42 wrote

Replying to mountainhighgoat (#387,378)

Because

  1. the scripted shows are only 3 hours out of the day. The rest are talk shows, judge shows, or the 700 Club.

  2. youth demographics largely don’t watch traditional television. They watch streaming (which, licensing their content was basically how the CW made money). That’s why Riverdale can sit at a mere 1 million or so viewers but still have a sizable pop culture presence.

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Stiff_Zombie t1_iujfvr1 wrote

The entire CW needs to end. It's a waste of time and whatever talent is involved. Get away from the bad effects and especially the focus on teen drama.

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CrankyStalfos t1_iujhttd wrote

Replying to aw-un (#400,283)

Also aging viewers. If you started watching Supernatural in 2008 when you were 25 (around the age of the leads), you are now almost 40 and they're probably hoping you might stick around for Walker.

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SilverPaladin1 t1_iujkkl1 wrote

When CW The Flash cancelled Hartley Sawyer, I cancelled CW. It seems many others have as well.

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SanguinolentSweven t1_iujmg7t wrote

That's too bad - it's a really good show. Curiously, I was just looking at the shows Wikipedia page the other day cause I was interested in its popularity. It only gets like half a million viewers per episode which doesn't seem healthy or sustainable.

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Lovat69 t1_iujmidi wrote

Replying to Prax150 (#391,794)

>We should have been able to watch all these channels for free years ago,

We used to. In the aughts I could watch nbc, abc, cbs, and probably wb/cw shows online a couple of days after it aired on the channel websites. Now you can't do that without a cable key for some reason. You are right it makes no sense.

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shyinwonderland t1_iujpi1b wrote

Replying to JVortex888 (#381,733)

It’s a bit sad, I had loved the CW for so long. With shows it brought up from WB and UPN9 merge like One Tree Hill and Supernatural, to Gossip Girl, izombie, the arrowverse, Reign, the 100, crazy ex girlfriend…the more I think about it there were alot to shows I loved on there. It was a very YA network and came at a time when I was fitting into that genre.

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WhoCanTell t1_iujprll wrote

Replying to Necessary-Image-6386 (#389,336)

The first season was really entertaining, but it was also not a CW show then. It was on DC Universe and was HBO Max-funded. Second season was still decent, but had a noticeable dip in quality as you could feel the CW-ness start to creep in. Third has been squarely meh IMO, and I'm just not motivated to watch it as much. It hasn't reached anywhere near the depths of bad that the later seasons of The Flash did, but it is definitely on a typical DC CW show trajectory.

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zebrahdh t1_iujpzi2 wrote

Neat. What is Stargirl?

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ehxy t1_iujq0do wrote

Replying to mikexmachina (#382,128)

It really surprised me how much I liked stargirl more than anything the CW has done superhero wise. I haven't liked a show this much since supernatural tbh.

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WhenRobLoweRobsLowes t1_iujxg5y wrote

Replying to TamagotchiMasterRace (#390,932)

I don't watch regularly, but the pilot was amazing.

That moment where Clark gets the news about his mom... in that moment he's not Superman, he's just a man, scared and heartbroken, but with the ability to be home in seconds. Man, that just crushed me. So well done.

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mysidian t1_iujztui wrote

Replying to ghostgnome (#385,938)

Didn't the CW stop their Netflix deal where everyone outside the US got their shows a day later? I wonder why they did that, all their shows seemed reasonably popular on Netflix.

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ScottCanada t1_iuk810h wrote

That’s a shame I was enjoying this show

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chaoticmessiah t1_iukbq0k wrote

Maybe since it airs on Amazon here in the UK, they can pick it up in the US?

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