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2Blitz t1_iy6tdyu wrote

These are all comedies that have a history of outlandish moments and stories. I don't think anyone should be looking at these shows for "good messages" and if they are, they're the ones who are at fault. Majority of conedies throughout history have fucked up shit, but they're not supposed to be taken seriously.

 

Finding these "bad messages" in more grounded dramas would be a better talking point for you imo. Shows like Gilmore Girls have come under scrutiny in recent years for some of the character's actions that were previously deemed okay.

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ViskerRatio t1_iy795j3 wrote

> Shows like Gilmore Girls have come under scrutiny in recent years for some of the character's actions that were previously deemed okay.

I think this is more a judgment on certain members of the audience than it is the show. In Gilmore Girls, all of the various characters make errors but they still remain protagonists. Nor does the show flinch from showing the negative consequences of their actions.

So when you hear people who are re-evaluating the characters, they're not really making statements about the show so much as their own failure to understand it on first viewing. Even worse, they're re-evaluating on the naive and simplistic premise that good people can't also be flawed people.

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Xemone t1_iy76inv wrote

Having messed up messages is more problematic when the subject matter at hand is family/kids shows since kids will actually take the messages to heart many times. While messed up messages in adult programming is still bad because it's meant to be taken more seriously and should have more complex stories and messages, I don't think it's as much of an issue there because adults typically don't carry as many messages from shows as kids do, and they can usually use their own logic to identify when a message is bad and why it is bad.

Many of these examples are from kids/family shows so I think they're reasonable arguments to be made.

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