SageOfTheWise t1_ixid2mh wrote
Reply to comment by Malcolm_Ten in Wilko Johnson, Legendary Guitarist and Actor Who Played Ser Ilyn Payne in ‘Game of Thrones’, Dies at 75 by MarvelsGrantMan136
Yeah, having Bronn instead of Payne be Jaime's partner was totally fine (though what they go off to do is another story...), but it was really awkward how Arya just drops Payne's name from the death list she repeats every episode, despite the fact he's the one who literally killed her father. You aren't just going to forget about him.
Jazzanthipus t1_ixiepad wrote
> J: What the hell was that?
> B: That was me knocking your ass to the dirt with your own hand
Bronn was arguably the best character in the whole show. Shame it got cancelled after only 4 seasons.
ShemhazaiX t1_ixiln5p wrote
Holy shit there's a fourth season? Is that the whole House of the Dragon thing people are talking about?
doesaxlhaveajack t1_ixiqcwr wrote
Yeah it’s a really short season that ends with the death of Oberyn Martell.
DDFitz_ t1_ixiu6pt wrote
That's my favorite cut of the EU.
Rawrfiend t1_ixixvbz wrote
I really wanted to see him perched up in High Garden or collecting on Tyrion and Jamie's heads. Shame.
doesaxlhaveajack t1_ixira5x wrote
Arya’s revenge stuff got so tiresome that I never even noticed that.
GRRM gives our POV characters perfunctory goals so they can serve their true literary purpose of observing new people and locations. The fact that the show bogged Maisie down with an annoying, repetitive arc instead of using her presence in Braavos to eavesdrop on politics or to play with the idea that the Faceless Men triggered the Doom and or explore their links to dragons…shows that D&D had a fundamental misunderstanding of the story they were telling. Like I’d bet a few dollars that Arya is going to return to Winterfell with intel about dragons, just in time to battle the Others.
pravis t1_ixivsfc wrote
>The fact that the show bogged Maisie down with an annoying, repetitive arc instead of using her presence in Braavos to eavesdrop on politics or to play with the idea that the Faceless Men triggered the Doom and or explore their links to dragons…shows that D&D had a fundamental misunderstanding of the story they were telling.
Braavosi politics, Faceless Men links to the doom or dragons is nice world building that is best suited for a book not a TV show where it would just be wasting time on stuff or people that do not matter or help a character grow.
doesaxlhaveajack t1_ixj4eb8 wrote
Except that’s why Arya’s role in the White Walker battle was so weird. They didn’t give her the dragon knowledge, so they trashed a bunch of prophecies.
pravis t1_ixj9kve wrote
Oh I agree Arya's story was handled poorly but it had nothing to do with not getting enough world building while in Braavos. She got her faceless man training and then skipped town which is all that was needed for the show.
They chose her to kill the night king for shock value when her story was probably better served trying to assassinate Cersei instead.
manhachuvosa t1_ixjn7d0 wrote
Except the first seasons and HOTD are pretty great in giving people lore in an interesting manner.
TempestaEImpeto t1_ixk02ja wrote
I mean, I don't think that's true at all. GRRM has said the Faulkner quote many times, to him the only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict against itself. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the story GRRM is telling.
Arya is in Braavos because that's where she gets to stare directly at what dissociating from her identity and personality looks like, and the true nature of death, murder and her revenge fantasies, from which she's presumably gonna turn away from, I think. Not because Martin wanted to write about the Black pearl of Braavos or whatever.
doesaxlhaveajack t1_ixk16gq wrote
You really didn’t grok onto the fact that Brienne’s function in book 4 is to take us on a tour of the countryside and to show us how the common folk are doing? You’re the one who made this personal, but you’re also wrong.
Krilesh t1_ixjktei wrote
literally cant have her repeat these names ad nauseum and then expect audience to not notice if a box wasnt checked lol
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