AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9ccij wrote
Reply to comment by Mattyzooks in 1899 Is A Phenomenal! A Worthy Spiritual Successor To Dark - It Succeeds Where Dark Failed by AnakinRagnarsson66
That intro can be interpreted in so many different ways. There was nothing in the original Netflix trailer or first 2 episodes that exposed the fact there's time travel. It's easy for you to say in hindsight that it's so blatant, but part of the reason it's so well made and impressive is because they set it up well as a creepy, dark and twistedcrime drama first. That's part of why the time travel twist is so well done.
I guarantee that you went into the show already knowing it was about time travel. That's why you're so unsympathetic to my perspective on this.
I'm lucky enough to be one of the few who watched the show thinking it was a crime drama and then was organically met with the mind-blowing revelation that there was time travel.
Mydden t1_ix9k4xy wrote
I've watched 2 episodes of Dark today because I enjoyed 1899 but thought it lacking substance and was told Dark is better. I had no knowledge of Dark beforehand other than it was some of the creators of 1899. I was expecting a crime drama going in.
I knew that we were going to be dealing with time travel in the first minutes of Dark. By the end of the first episode it's clear we're in a loop. It... really wasn't that big of a revelation.
AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9kbcm wrote
Good for you. but you say all this already knowing that Dark is an international phenomenon. It’s easy to jump to that conclusion then. Also how did you deduce from 1st episode alone that its a loop?
AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9ku2v wrote
You say all this already knowing that Dark is an international phenomenon. It’s easy to jump to that conclusion then. Also how did you deduce from 1st episode alone that its a loop
Mydden t1_ix9o94j wrote
I literally didn't know Dark was popular. I saw it recommended on Netflix occasionally over the past few years and didn't think I would like it because I'm usually not into gore, and it looked like it could be gorey, so never looked into it at all. I only started watching it because the creators of 1899 were involved and 1899 left me wanting more in a not fulfilling way so I was hoping Dark would give me some substance and so far I've been happier with it.
As to how I deduced the existence of a loop, the opening scene of Dark is literally a quote about the illusion of time as a straight forward arrow.
"The distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."
And then the narrator is talking about how everything is connected. So I immediately knew we were going to be getting timey wimey stuff - I basically began expecting something inspired by Vunnegut's Slaughterhouse Five.
I don't know what the loop is yet, but there were several characters talking about how "it's happening again", and the dude who hanged himself knew "the future" and knew that other people knowing what was in the envelope he left behind before a certain time would/could prevent something he wanted to happen from happening (or the other way around). I'm pretty sure the word loop itself has been used in reference to something else in the show too.
I'm expecting some pretty weird things because of the setting including grandfather paradoxes and potentially some Oedipus style killing/relationships.
EDIT: Just went back over the intro. The loop is literally in the opening monologue:
"they are connected in a never-ending circle"
AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9syap wrote
Yeah but if you don’t know the show us about time travel then you might not interpret it literally
Mydden t1_ix9v274 wrote
... Why wouldn't you? What other interpretation of "The distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." and then that opening monologue featuring visuals of past, present, and future versions of all the characters is there?
AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9vk5c wrote
That’s enough. You sound so unsympathetic to other viewpoints, everything is so clear cut and dry for you huh? At that point nobody knows who all those characters are and how they’re related. And the quote just pops up for a few seconds and then disappears. At that point, who knows what the creators’ intention is with that quote. Most people aren’t truly digesting what that means at that point
SoundofGlaciers t1_ixd3g11 wrote
There's nobody in this thread more unsympathetic to other viewpoints than you OP as evidenced by you constantly moving the goalposts in every conversation, never agreeing with anyone or understanding their viewpoint.
Always saying it must be because they already knew what is was about, or how most people in your 'real life' circle said [x] about it, implying your experiences are more true than those of people commenting here.
There's a reason this thread kinda turned against you and it's completely because of your own reactions
Mydden t1_ix9wkc8 wrote
The quote pops up, but we're treated to a two minute monologue narration that goes over time as an illusion again right after while we're looking at an evidence board filled with past present and future versions of a number of people - yarn stringing them all together in a web of unknown connections.
"We trust that time is linear. That it proceeds eternally, uniformly. Into infinity. But the distinction between past, present and future is nothing but an illusion. Yesterday, today and tomorrow are not consecutive, they are connected in a never-ending circle. Everything is connected."
The fact that we don't know who those people are at that point doesn't matter. The narrator told us that we're going to be seeing time travel connected in a never-ending circle (aka a loop).
Fondle_My_Sweaters t1_ix9rq7x wrote
Yet you literally said you watched it. Who is the troll?
Mirror meet thine my face.
Mydden t1_ix9us12 wrote
Did you mean to respond to someone else? Me watching Dark's first two episodes are literally the point... I haven't watched anything else for Dark yet, I just finished 1899 yesterday.
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