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iamboywond3r t1_iyechs3 wrote
I wonder how much they offered him to return because I remember reading saying he doesn’t like tv now that he has experienced it first hand and filming movies are basically a paradise/vacation. He jokingly said he would do another season if they shot it in his house, so he could be close to his family. I know he was making a joke, but if you read between the lines it did come off as he didn’t want to continue filming the show cause it is harder work.
ThatSithOverThere t1_iyegexk wrote
Most of the time when an actor publicly talks about not returning to a role, it’s likely just them using that as leverage for a better deal from the studio. Like with Tom Holland talking about retiring as Spider-Man after No Way Home or James Cameron not doing Avatar 4 & 5.
Alpha_Msp t1_iyer266 wrote
The studio probably said they'd replace him with Arnold and Sylvester offered to do it for free. 🤣🤣🤣
ShutupGustov t1_iyeyy5s wrote
James Cameron not doing Avatar 4 & 5 may be a blessing.
DanMorgan405 t1_iyf0esp wrote
No kidding. I liked Avatar but I certainly didn't ask for James Cameron to abandon filmmaking so he can make 10 Avatar movies instead of more classics.
Djinnwrath t1_iyf99j8 wrote
All I'm saying is, his two best films are sequels.
Don't write off Avatar 2 just yet.
DanMorgan405 t1_iyfa0gq wrote
Hope they are masterpieces because Avatar is probably my least favorite Cameron film that I've watched.
Djinnwrath t1_iyfcp9b wrote
I liked it more than The Abyss.
DanMorgan405 t1_iyfelir wrote
Man, I loved the Abyss probably for nostalgia.
It has definitely aged worse than say Terminator 2 and has some serious pacing issues. It's not near the same levels as Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
I just want more James Cameron because he is so creative. I just am worried he is making something out of passion rather than a good story.
notGeneralReposti t1_iyf6fod wrote
50 Cent did this after every season of Power. Kept talking smack until he got a renewal and raise.
Oirad20 t1_iyefzdu wrote
All I know is that throughout his whole career Sylvester Stallone has been full of surprises....in one way or another....
dontreallycareforit t1_iyekq4j wrote
Plus, if they have to shoot in Tulsa that’s gotta be a fucking drag
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CorporateSympathizer t1_iyemnfa wrote
He did say that, but I also think he wants to be remembered as a respectable actor in his own right, and this show has the potential to expand that notion. He's already got "f- you" money.
Razzler1973 t1_iyekyvz wrote
Maybe those reports of Stallone 'not sure if I can more of this' were all a negotiating tactic 🫢
Saar13 t1_iye7k2v wrote
“‘Tulsa King’ scored as the #1 new series of the year, topping all others including the ‘Game of Thrones’ sequel ‘House of the Dragon,’ with its preview on Paramount Network, and on Paramount+, it shattered records, driving us to our biggest new sign-up day in history – which is why we instantly greenlit season two,” said Chris McCarthy, president & CEO of Paramount Media Networks & MTV Entertainment Studios.
Janderson2494 t1_iye95m7 wrote
That's actually crazy. Sly still got it!
lord_pizzabird t1_iyecseu wrote
Yellowstone also hit 15 million viewers for the new season premiere. It's going a bit under the radar among TV nerds, but it seems like Paramount is blowing up atm.
Might be watching the rise of a new HBO Now.
sneakyxxrocket t1_iyeivh9 wrote
This isn’t mean spirited at all but all my boomer relatives at thanksgiving were non stop recommending Yellowstone. It’s basically Cattle farmer game of thrones
Mikey5time t1_iyelqf4 wrote
That’s why it already has two spin-offs.
lord_pizzabird t1_iyf0zfk wrote
Three technically. 6666, 1883, and 1922.
Sidenote, I wish they would ditch the 4 numbers thing for spin-offs. It's cool but is going to get rel confusing if this continues.
BOEJlDEN t1_iyf5go7 wrote
Is 6666 set in the distant future?
lord_pizzabird t1_iyf747f wrote
No, but you'd think so given their naming scheme for spin-offs.
6666, Pronounced "four sixes" follows another ranch in the Yellowstone universe that specializes in training horses. It's also a real ranch IRL that the Showrunner, Taylor Sheridan recently acquired for $320million (he's doing pretty well financially lol).
BOEJlDEN t1_iyf8fam wrote
Goddamn dude is making bank
Wish he’d go back to making movies tbh, I love Wind River, Hell or High Water and Sicario
mlavan t1_iyeyrrg wrote
Technically three if you include Mayor of Kingstown
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lord_pizzabird t1_iyf14km wrote
I don't mean to make this about politics, but I think it's also notable that they went on to elect a well-known television personality to office, when they finally reached the peak of their power.
It's a generation of people born and raised in the shadow of Vietnam, America's first televised war and raised in the era of cable tv. Their whole lives revolved from the start to finish around televisions.
sim21521 t1_iyef8jl wrote
>Yellowstone also hit 15 million viewers for the new season premiere. It's going a bit under the radar among TV nerds, but it seems like Paramount is blowing up atm.
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>Might be watching the rise of a new HBO Now.
For me paramount plus has always just been the new star trek network. The shows have been middling, but at least it puts Trek back on "TV". Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks have been particularly good shows to me though.
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lord_pizzabird t1_iyf1cci wrote
Interesting. I have it for Yellowstone, but totally forgot about Star Trek.
VaultGoat t1_iyelciy wrote
I mean they inflate these numbers and lie all the time.
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Valuable_Experience t1_iyezr4o wrote
On Cable though......streaming NOT a chance. 30M average for HOTD.....Yellowstone or any paramount + show isn't touching those numbers. It makes for good headlines though.
send3squats2help t1_iyef3c0 wrote
That doesn’t make any sense to me. It is a pretty cringy watch.
MinnesotaNoire t1_iyefc2g wrote
>I don't understand how people like things that are different from the things I like.
send3squats2help t1_iyeg80a wrote
It just seems like a complete miss, I seemingly am the demographic this show was made for, late 30s male, huge stalone fan, grew up watching rambo and rocky- i even love the fan service expendables… And the premise of this show is: old tough guy doesn’t understand “woke” stuff- he strong-arms a legal pot shop and the owner is cool with it, and they’re buddies… and he just makes like “kids these days are so crazy” references… I don’t know it’s not that i just didn’t like it, it seems so utterly terrible, it’s mind blowing that it’s their number 1 show and are desperate for more episodes…
CorporateSympathizer t1_iyem6r0 wrote
If you watch episode 2, he actually justifies his cut by negotiating a better deal for the business (and the numbers suggest profit margins greater than the 20% cut he's taking).
I think the pot shop owner just wants to smoke and chill and he warmed up to the idea of Sly taking over the "finer points of business".
wakingup_withwolves t1_iyemasn wrote
the scene in the car when he’s high is the only time i remember it being slightly old-tough-guy-doesn’t-understand-woke-stuff. i was also worried that was gonna be a major thing in the show, but that’s really the only part like that i can remember. there is a slight element of Phones Bad to the show, but i feel like it’s not extrapolated enough to really be a problem. it’s more just like this guy just did 25 years in prison, of course he doesn’t know that you book an Uber on a phone app.
qtx t1_iyerehk wrote
> It just seems like a complete miss
Someone is really upset their fav show got beat as best new show of the year.
send3squats2help t1_iyet23y wrote
huh? no, i don’t even know what my favorite show is, but it’s probably not even from this network. My top shows in no particular order for the year are probably: House of the Dragon, Andor, the Old Man, Peacemaker, Slow Horses, Severance, and Night Sky. I was just genuinely baffled how anyone liked Tulsa King in particular, as my impression of it was that it was embarrassingly bad. Just weird, I guess. I REALLY WANTED TO LIKE IT.
cyainanotherlifebro t1_iyel5a8 wrote
It’s our dads.
NonAggressive-Ask t1_iyeiorp wrote
I'm not a fan of Yellowstone, but I loved 1883, and I thoroughly dig Tulsa King, I'm really happy it got renewed. Watching Sly do his best Goodfellas in the sticks routine is a treat.
Captain_Blacktoes t1_iyezh8i wrote
I've been watching Yellowstone before I jump on to 1883 and absolutely love it (currently mid season 3). You saying that 1883 and Tulsa King are even better than Yellowstone has me super excited.
powerstride96 t1_iyf3gpa wrote
Also try Mayor of Kingstown.
coglanuk t1_iyf598a wrote
1883 was polarising but I loved it. You should check out the new trailer for 1923. It’s another Dutton family prequel. Incredible cast including Harrison Ford, Helen Mirren, Timothy Dalton and Jerome Flynn. Looks really, really good.
Satean12 t1_iyf69ni wrote
Taylor Sheridan getting Harrison Ford to do a Yellowstone Prequel just shows how strong the Sheridan brand is
kdot_10 t1_iyf4lvb wrote
Yellowstone is miles better than 1883 imo and I’m a snob
Ozzdo t1_iyebtn8 wrote
This show is exactly what I thought it was going to be, and I really don't have a problem with that. I'm enjoying it. It's full of familiar tropes, but it's hitting them all well.
Dumbeldoor t1_iyeuflb wrote
Taylor Sheridan has to be making so much money its crazy at this point. Solo writing and creating Yellowstone, this show, 1889 and Mayor of Kingstown. Madness lol, but there all good shows so congrats to the man.
Captain_Blacktoes t1_iyezra9 wrote
Don't forget the next Yellowstone spinoff, 1923
Valuable_Experience t1_iyezw4u wrote
Boomers don't buy merch/active in the fandom looooooool don't think he's making that much tbf
JimGerm t1_iyeata7 wrote
I'm thoroughly enjoying the show so far, and am happy to see it being renewed.
Mrcollaborator t1_iyeatqa wrote
Didn’t Stallone say that it was too much work? Like a tv show vs movies which is what he was used to. Didn’t expect him to return for more.
phaermink t1_iyelkc8 wrote
He will be replaced by Liam Hemsworth.
scr33ner t1_iyebqsy wrote
He did…but I’m glad it’s coming back it’s been enjoyable.
LostInStatic t1_iyevqu0 wrote
He generally just said that theres a lot more that goes into shooting a season of television over a movie which is true. Shooting schedules are probably 3x as long as a film. He may have been looking for a raise in all honesty
CosmicLars t1_iyewhpn wrote
Happy about it. Watched 2 episodes with my dad during Thanksgiving & we had a great time with it. Just a fun show. Nothing else.
Ill-Meeting7644 t1_iyezthe wrote
100%. It doesn‘t take it self seriously and you can tell the writers just had a good time lol.
It‘s just enjoyable through and through.
Sunstang t1_iyef7pu wrote
So this is basically Lillyhammer but in Oklahoma...
SonOfMechaMummy t1_iyeofy6 wrote
Yeah, it's pretty much that with a couple backstory details changed (witness protection vs. still being in the mob but basically deported out of sight/out of mind) and more of a TNT/USA original series vibe than Scandinavian eccentricity. I've only watched the first two episodes and overall it feels like perfectly acceptable comfort food TV.
Sunstang t1_iyexly8 wrote
Right on. Thanks!
no_more_secrets t1_iyehq2j wrote
It's not that good.
sedeyus t1_iyejn7z wrote
Televsion/Streaming becoming revenge of the Boomers with this show/Yellowstone/Amazon adapting your dad's favorite book series all over the place.
I hope somebody gets Arnold something real quick.
gszr89 t1_iyeyb1g wrote
Loving this show and loving more Stallone, he's doing an amazing performance.
zeth07 t1_iyems2d wrote
I was going to say I gave up after the first episode as if all the episodes have already been released but since only a few have it doesn't sound like I would've had much to go off anyway.
I'm not watching more because I couldn't separate it from reality where the stuff he was doing wouldn't just immediately have the cops called on him and just get arrested especially given his previous crime/s.
xXJamesScarXx t1_iyfcwz0 wrote
He looks so dark
devhdc t1_iyeokhq wrote
Im surprised by this, because Sylvester has done several interviews where he's said that it was not at all like making movie, and it was very very hard work and he didn't know if he was up for it..
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windingtime t1_iye7wuy wrote
Does Tulsa King also have a bunch of right wing wish fulfillment in it?
JGyllenhaals t1_iye8rzk wrote
Nope
Svorky t1_iyeagfy wrote
More like boomer wish fullfilment.
It's basically a "geriatric fish out of water banging the hot chicks and being a badass " story
JGyllenhaals t1_iyeb8iv wrote
One chick that he has developed a rapport with does not constitute banging hot chicks but I would agree it is boomerish but at the same time wildly ridiculous. The writing is all over the place as far as character interactions, staying committed to the dialogue from ep1-ep2, outlandish setups that have very little basis in reality.
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Forcecoaster99 t1_iyf32wa wrote
😮🤓
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The_Jizzbot t1_iyeb40n wrote
One week ago
Sly "I am too old and tired to make another season"
truck full of cash backs up
"YO ADRIANNNN"