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Autumnleaves201 t1_j0szsxj wrote

I mean, tbf Wednesday is a rich emo kid with parent issues.

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Edogawa1983 t1_j0tc1gf wrote

Still don't know why people actually liked her, like the students there.

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Autumnleaves201 t1_j0tc5ps wrote

I assume it was because she was weird and mysterious, so that was alluring. Plus, I guess they figured she actually liked them more than she let on, which is true.

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ZulJack t1_j0sd87t wrote

So the actor that plays Xavier gives off the vibes of the exact character he is supposed to be playing? I understand if you dislike the writing of the character but the actor played it very well.

Personally, I enjoyed both characters very much. Tyler’s turn in episode 8 was chilling. He played the Jekyl/Hyde about as well as you could.

Xavier’s father is a super famous psychic and he comes from a rich family. His fam was the only one to not show up for parents weekend. He’s got the perfect teenage angst story. His visions come to life and attack him after parents weekend. He has a fast crush on Wednesday, a girl who saved him when he was a kid. It all fits to me. I really enjoyed Xavier’s character.

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TokkiJK t1_j0tkzu2 wrote

I had a dream that i went on a roller skating date with Xavier and now he’s suddenly my celebrity crush.

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jaselee t1_j0sgu92 wrote

I used to hate King Joffrey in Game of Thrones. After like 2-3 years I realized if that actor can make you hate them, it means they are doing their job REALLY REALLY well.

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kushmaester t1_j0sxo1i wrote

This, if you hate a character, 9 times out of 10 they are killing it.

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Mikimao t1_j0ubor6 wrote

There is a difference between hate the performance and hate the character you see on screen. Most complaints I have read regarding the boys firmly falls firmly in the first category.

I think it's pretty clear the girls carry this show. You can leave Wednesday feeling Jenna Ortega is irreplicable in that role, I don't think most of us feel this way about any of the male characters. They didn't elicit strong feelings of hate, validating a performance, they were just less interesting than their female counter parts.

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RoboModeTrip t1_j0t877g wrote

I disagree with that. Maybe in some rare cases.

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SignificantTravel3 t1_j0t9mt4 wrote

Why do people constantly parrot this shit? You would probably hate him even more, if he was played by a shit actor.

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The_Saddest_Boner t1_j0souj3 wrote

Serious question - do you think a piece of art/entertainment is BETTER when you like every character? Seems strange to me. Some people have undesirable personal traits, I’ve always thought that reality should be represented in fiction

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SpreadYourAss t1_j0troir wrote

>Serious question - do you think a piece of art/entertainment is BETTER when you like every character?

I genuinely think that's the case for some people.

I recently saw a comment saying how someone hated Breaking Bad because of how much of a piece of shit Walter became. Yes, THAT'S THE POINT! Lol

Some people don't actually appreciate well written characters, just characters that they personally agree with. It's very weird honestly.

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Mikimao t1_j0uby0a wrote

Exactly, I wasn't tuning into Breaking Bad, because I was looking for rational intelligently measures responses, I wanted someone to go buck wild, so I could live vicariously through that, lol.

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thenotoriouscrg t1_j0t2idz wrote

I don’t know if it’s my algorithm or the sub, but I swear my entire feed has been nothing but unsubstantiated or really naive and uneducated takes the last few days. Like- /r/movies is cringe a lot, but it’s not this flippantly out of touch with what fiction and acting is consistently.

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miklat106 t1_j0shmmv wrote

If you hate Xavier then wait until you see that actor in The Gifted (The Marvel show from a few years ago). It's like Xavier turned to a 1000.

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AdrianW3 t1_j0ta5t2 wrote

Never clicked that he was the kid in The Gifted - what a little shit that character was.

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miklat106 t1_j0uc65y wrote

LOL he was one of the reasons I quit watching it after the first season

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Sageinthe805 t1_j0tb7c0 wrote

Teenagers are awkward and often entitled. They don't know their place in the world and are full of resentments and insecurities. They do the best they can with all of that stirring around in them. Seems like most of the characters reflect this to some degree.

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itsDandar t1_j0tnt7j wrote

This is a weird take lol.

Honestly, all the actors did great and really put in the work you can clearly tell. My issue is that it was sold off the jump as a more dark and gruesome take on The Adam's Family by showing a kid getting ripped apart by Paranahs in the previews. Showing blood was the catfish here for me. I went into it thinking, "This is going to be awesome and totally dark," only for it to turn into your super generic and basic high school drama tv series. Awkward quiet girl goes to new school where she has to meet new people. Torn between 2 teenage boys in a love triangle. Queue the home coming / prom / school dance with more generic drama. Like if you type out the conflicts in this show, you wouldn't even know which show I was talking about. That is how generic it is. By episode 7, I was thoroughly disappointed

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blareboy t1_j0t4uxb wrote

Come on, Tyler is perfectly cast. He’s weird and sardonically charming, the ideal upset to Wednesday’s world view. His looks fit the character. He has the face and posture of someone who’s shunned, but he’s strangely attractive up close. And when he turns, it’s easy to believe someone of his social station could be that deceptive.

No comment on Xavier, other than I’m glad they didn’t go with a heartthrob.

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RoboModeTrip t1_j0t8fbm wrote

Every line from Tyler until the very end was like the guy had literally never talked to someone before in his life. Like he didn't even know English and was struggling to remember the sounds needed to form the words. Not awkward talking to a girl just literal not knowing how to talk at all.

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Majestic87 t1_j0szvtw wrote

My favorite part was those two guys fighting over a girl who literally showed no interest in either of them.

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digitalfrustration t1_j0sx4yp wrote

I dont like things that dont make life easy for me and they should be un alive because im upset

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TokkiJK t1_j0tkv1o wrote

The characters acted exactly how I expect them to act. One is an entitled rich kid at a private school and the other’s duality of awkward and pitiful and then actually overconfident and calculating completely works given the whole Hyde dynamic. And also since he’s trying to pull one over Wednesday.

Wednesday is also very entitled and didn’t understand the consequences of her actions until things went south.

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SuperMazziveH3r0 t1_j0tocpf wrote

They're literally high school kids. What do you expect? Prince Charming?

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DarthSisig t1_j0tjuaw wrote

I'm guessing this what happened Director: "I need all my male actors to act awkward and entitled"

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lumpthefoff t1_j0szzvk wrote

Off topic but, did they ever explain Xavier and his paintings? Like why was he painting/seeing the monster and stuff?

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Gobblewicket t1_j0tpx1o wrote

His father is a world famous psychic. Powers are genetic in the show, so its how he manifests his psychic powers.

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Annahsbananas t1_j0tsv86 wrote

I didn't see that.

If anything Wednesday was entitled. You know how many rules she broke?

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Stuart517 t1_j0u59eo wrote

They were probably intentionally written that way, with the way male leads are looking on tv shows these days...

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anasui1 t1_j0ubg1m wrote

It's the current trend, write male characters, especially white, being shit at everything in order to make the super amazing females even more amazing

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Mikimao t1_j0uc8zs wrote

You can critque the show all you want, but you can get critqued on your criteque, it's the whole point of this. We are all sharing opinions here, not spitting truths.

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i81u812 t1_j0tw3qn wrote

Legit didn't even notice they had any males at all on the series VV

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SXSWEggrolls t1_j0ub1h5 wrote

So many ellipsis. Surely you are not Gen Z.

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GuTTeRaLSLaM t1_j0u131b wrote

You know this is a tv show for 14 year olds, right?

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Janglysack t1_j0tndpm wrote

Yes men suck boo hoo

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TheInconspicuousBIG t1_j0tw7j0 wrote

They do that on purpose obviously. Woke writing, make some male roles lame

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Jabroni504 t1_j0sdj8i wrote

It’s Tim Burton what do you expect

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_Lonelywulf_ t1_j0s9n3i wrote

Xavier felt really weird to me too. Tyler is very understandable as a character and while awkward I think that's the point of a show about teenagers. But Xavier is just... Moody moody moody and acts like he can get his way without significant effort.

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Gobblewicket t1_j0tq8cz wrote

Xavier father is a world famous psychic who is the only parent not to visit on parents' day, so he's got those issues. Along with the race he's having visions, his paintings, showing him murder and violence. Might make anyone a little moody. Add in being a teenager, and there you go. As for getting his way, it's established early in that he is used to getting his way as the weird "big man on campus" archetype, with a goth bent of course.

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newbiesmash t1_j0sd96i wrote

Show is awkward af also.

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