TV shows with similar premises where one show is much better than the other

Submitted by mranimal2 t3_zz0ndg in television

Get Shorty and Barry

I like the Get Shorty show but Barry is the better show of the two. In fact I'd argue its better than the Get Shorty movie and book as well

Problem with the Get Shorty movie and book is...I just don't care about Chili Palmer. His motivation is just "I'm bored of being a mobster". It's a fun movie (Though the book is surprisingly kinda dull) but I can't feel myself to really care about the characters.

The Get Shorty show is better in that regard in, thanks to the elongated time, we get more in depth with each character, find out their backstories and motivations, and it gives us the chance to decide whether or not we want them to succeed.

However I'd say Barry is still better because it's a much more complex show; Barry's struggle to be a good person is more interesting than Miles' because the show keeps going back and forth on whether or not he should change, and whether or not the people around him are much better, while, in the Get Shorty show, its clear as day that Miles and Ron are good people stuck in bad situations. They're still likable characters but, while I root for them to succeed, I can't help but be more captured by Barry's story and run the gamut between wanting him to succeed and wanting him to get behind bars.

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Plastic-Repeat2497 t1_j28uzbd wrote

Psych > the mentalist

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Enkundae t1_j29n2wh wrote

My first thought too. I loved how Psych made a running joke of taking the piss out of that show

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sanchez1887 t1_j2a07uu wrote

I never watched the mentalist just because it was such a blatant rip off of psych. Enjoyed all the jokes about it though.

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dragonmp93 t1_j2ata2n wrote

Yeah, what the mentalist had going for them was the same that kept Castle alive for some long, a pretty detective that wanted to strangle the titular character with her bare hands half of the time.

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cloppyfawk t1_j2aukn2 wrote

Stana Katic was the main reason I watched Castle religiously back in the days. Gorgeous woman.

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bernbabybern13 t1_j2cxkeb wrote

That is a big mistake. They’re very different and the Red John plot is really great.

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obscureposter t1_j2bmqjm wrote

That’s true but to be fair they took each show in a very different direction. Mentalist is a drama first with some elements of comedy while Psych is the opposite. Plus Patrick Jane outright says he’s not a psychic while Shawn is the opposite.

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bernbabybern13 t1_j2cxipy wrote

Eh. They’re pretty different. Psych is a comedy and The Mentalist is pretty dark. Also Shawn pretends to be psychic, whereas Patrick never does. I personally thought the mentalist was more interesting in terms of watching how Patrick’s brain works and the tricks he uses and how he thinks. Shawn’s is more just quick flashes of things and then he’ll make his claim etc.

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OldPunk1984 t1_j29xd3t wrote

30 Rock vs Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

Both about a SNL type sketch show that aired on NBC in 2006.

One had 7 seasons and the other is Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

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Any-Low9727 t1_j2ai1bt wrote

Ya but let me tell you... I loved Studio 60 and miss it dearly.

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bobtheflob t1_j2bf5wj wrote

I remember at the time many people saying that they felt bad for 30 Rock because of the unfortunate timing. Studio 60 got more hype and most people thought it would have the better staying power.

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OldPunk1984 t1_j2bvaqn wrote

On paper it looked that way. Sorkin was just coming off of West Wing and Tina Fey wasn’t a sure thing at this point. While she was on SNL and Mean Girls was a success, to the public she was just the Weekend Update anchor and Mean Girls was more associated with Lohan. This was her first thing where she was front and center. Without seeing either I would have thought Sunset Strip would be the one that survives.

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jl_theprofessor t1_j2asufn wrote

You know, I just started my rewatch of 30 Rock from start to finish, today.

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nedlum t1_j2bf8vb wrote

Might as well squeeze in Studio 60. It won’t take very long.

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twbrn t1_j2eepio wrote

> One had 7 seasons and the other is Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

That's hardly fair. One is a goofy sitcom and the other is a drama. A funny drama, but still. And Studio 60 was a great show.

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see-bees t1_j291k2a wrote

Scrubs > Grey’s Anatomy and any other medical show on air

Also heard from an ER doc that scrubs is the only medical show he’s ever seen that remotely resembles reality. Most medical shows have 1st-2nd year residents doing more exotic procedures in a month than real doctors see in a career.

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itijara t1_j29lds8 wrote

While I agree that Scrubs is better, it's much more comedy than drama. The better comparison is E.R. versus any of its clones.

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TelluricThread0 t1_j2ai24n wrote

But the way they weave the drama into their stories is amazing.

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misoranomegami t1_j2ai0w3 wrote

We're past the prime for it but I've said for years we need a Scrubs treatment to all the CSI/forensic shows. One of my college professors used to run a crime lab and he had just the funniest (awful) stories about cases they worked. The CSI shows generally involve some sort of criminal mastermind vs the cases he worked where people would worry that the corpse bag was leaking so stuff in some of their mail with their name to their address to soak up the blood.

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qtquat t1_j2b3ltq wrote

Off the top of my head I can think of Brooklyn 99 but that’s not quite it. Angie Tribeca is closer but it’s more full on parody.

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BjornBeetleBorg t1_j29qjha wrote

Scrubs is a comedy. but the medical consulting is great on the show

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Stardustchaser t1_j2akc1t wrote

To piggyback a few years ago it was ER versus Chicago Hope. Both set in Chicago and released the same year.

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BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo t1_j2am3tx wrote

I’ve heard that from many medical professionals! It’s because the creator and show runner (and I think head writer, but at least significant influence on writing. Also married to Jordan IRL and plays a janitor in the finale) Bill Lawrence has a good friend who’s a doctor. They were roommates in college, his name is JD. He’s now the chief of medicine at his hospital. I think he and maybe other medical professionals were pretty routinely consulted to make sure it was accurate, both in terms of illnesses and medicine and also general dynamics.

Edit: you may already know that, but I’m just adding it in case others don’t!

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Dazered t1_j2aqace wrote

From what I heard it's also easier for Scrubs to do things right since the focus was never on the illness. A show like House had to make illnesses outlandish to be entertaining.

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BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo t1_j2askrq wrote

That’s true! It’s not a focus, but there are often throwaway lines regarding a diagnosis based on symptoms or medicine the can treat/help it. And I’ve heard that’s accurate. But good point- the diseases or illnesses are generally irrelevant to the plot.

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GaryTheCabalGuy t1_j2azges wrote

These shows aren't remotely similar other than the fact that they both take place in a hospital.

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DoYouNeedAnAmbulance t1_j2eya5f wrote

Sirens is WAYYYYY closer to real EMS than any of the 911 bullshit shows out there. All of the fire ones are just….wrong…too.

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royalewithcheesecake t1_j29d4ua wrote

Billions and Succession and pretty similar, with the latter being much better (though both are good).

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BjornBeetleBorg t1_j29qg0p wrote

It’s sad how bad Billions got

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RealDealLewpo t1_j2ae6eq wrote

I'm halfway through season 6 and it's a real slog.

Losing Damien Lewis basically killed this show.

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LillyXcX t1_j2aowz7 wrote

It really did but it was getting stagnant at the end with him too

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tomc_23 t1_j2b6iub wrote

Ehh… I mean. Sure, in the most superficial sense, they are similar because both feature the lavish lives of the 1%. But they’re NOTHING alike in basically every other capacity.

Succession is about how dysfunctional and terrible the Roy family is because of their wealth and privilege, and the draw is in seeing the absurd shit and corporate maneuvering they attempt backfire in their faces. Meanwhile, despite being terrible people, there’s still a very real sense of sympathy for them as people, which is a testament to the casting and performances as much as the writing. They suck, but over time we see why they suck, and while they may have infinitely more than what most of us enjoy, they are maladapted, crippled by insecurities, neurotic.

Honestly, Billions is the worst possible comparison, but if you want a series that is basically the closest comparison, it’s actually another HBO series, The Righteous Gemstones. That series is essentially the megachurch version of Succession, with almost the exact same premise and composition of characters (the presumptuous heir apparent who isn’t the man he believes himself to be, the immature younger brother who clearly struggles with his sexuality, and the sister who fancies herself the clever one, but is just as fucked up as the others, and also has a punching bag husband she takes for granted).

edit: Was on mobile before.

To be clear, while I say Righteous Gemstones is the better comparison to Succession, by no means is it within the context of OP's prompt. Righteous Gemstones is a very good series, that just so happens to share the same premise as Succession. It just happens to go in a wildly different direction (as it should).

Meanwhile, Billions is about the rivalry between two titans of their respective realms, and how far they are willing to go to "win," even after it becomes self-destructive. There's ultimately no "winner," because the story always finds a way to preserve the status quo, and after 5+ seasons, Damian Lewis ultimately leaves the show for deeply personal reasons (the sudden loss of his wife), not because the story ultimately arrives at a conclusion as to who prevails in their rivalry. All throughout this time, while other billionaires may be presented as laughably out of touch with reality, Bobby Axelrod himself is generally treated as a "cool" character; someone many finance bro-types probably aspire to be like. And one wouldn't be able to blame them, because Billions does not attempt to present him as anything other than a demigod with near-supernatural powers of calculation in his ability to see the patterns of the market.

Bobby dresses cool, drives cool cars, and the show's use of "cool" cameos and constant (and I mean CONSTANT) references to pop culture make Bobby seem practically pulled right out of the version of cool-guy masculinity Esquire Magazine tries to sell. He's by no means a satire of wealth and privilege, he's like the young, Steve McQueen-version of Logan Roy from Succession, since both are meant to be the level-headed, intelligent sharks who arose from poverty to become titans of industry.

I'm sorry, they're just not comparable and have completely different themes, motifs, characters, and storylines.

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testrail t1_j2bumgi wrote

I mean they’re not really all that similar. Succession is significantly closer to Yellowstone than Billions, or even the Righteous Gemstones. It’s about family dynamics in the .01%

Billions is like Suits, but with different gimmicks. Super hero lawyers vs. super hero hedge fund Guys and DA’s and psychiatrists. It’s just marvel presents Ivy League professionals.

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meowskywalker t1_j28udf5 wrote

NEXT looked at Person of Interest, said “we can do that, but much much worse!” and inexplicably got down to work doing that.

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Hannibal254 t1_j2a3fcw wrote

Simpsons > Family Guy

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SanctuaryMoon t1_j29y9pl wrote

I often forget that White Collar and Suits are two different shows. Not sure if one is better though.

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Any-Low9727 t1_j2ai7bb wrote

These two shows could not be more different lol

White Collar is about a criminal who turns to the FBI to help white collar criminals.

Suits is a legal drama.

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bros402 t1_j2a85lx wrote

White Collar is much better

It doesn't have The Donna

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ThomB96 t1_j2azz1w wrote

Very different shows, and White Collar was very watchable

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sjhr23 t1_j2ca29a wrote

The first few seasons of Suits is good before it goes down hill, but every season of White Collar is good. White Collar > Suits in my opinion

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TheMadManiac t1_j2a82ot wrote

The Office (US) > The Office (UK)

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Badenoch101 t1_j2bol8f wrote

It’s a matter of opinion so I can’t say you are wrong but for me you can’t even compare the two besides the name. One isn’t better than the other because they were both trying to accomplish a different style of comedy. They aimed for different reactions from the audience. People think the Scott’s tots episode of the office is so cringey its hard to watch, but that is nothing compared to most episodes of the uk office. Maybe it’s a cultural thing but in the UK that type of humour is beloved.

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TheMadManiac t1_j2bqy69 wrote

Get Shorty and Barry are very different from each other and they are being compared here. Both forms of the office are a lot more alike than different, US version just had a lot stronger writing and a better cast

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HawlSera t1_j2bhied wrote

To be fair watching paint dry is better than Office UK

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VampireHunterAlex t1_j2aqgg6 wrote

The morning local news program is 99% of the time better than the evening local news. I have no opinion on the afternoon version, as I am never around to watch it.

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SmoreOfBabylon t1_j2dgff1 wrote

Eh, depends on your local stations and why you’re watching, I guess. The local morning news shows in my area all pretty much follow the same formula, everything’s broken up into easily digestible ~10 minute chunks so that the average person heading out the door to work/school can get a couple of top headlines, today’s weather, and the traffic report in just a few minutes no matter when they tune in. If you actually want to sit down and watch all of the news or get the full weather forecast, this format can be annoying.

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Stardustchaser t1_j2ak34l wrote

The classic is the Star Trek Deep Space Nine versus Babylon 5. The creator of B5 had shopped the show to Paramount, it passed on it, yet developed DS9.

Lots of parallels to the two shows so JMS has a valid claim. That said, they are different and there is much to like from both. In my opinion DS9 is among the best of Trek, with its writers/producers going on to other shows like Breaking Bad.

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cerberus00 t1_j2c3mo3 wrote

Hmm this one is tough. I felt like Babylon 5 started off stronger than DS9 and then they kinda dipped towards each other and swapped places as time progressed. The early seasons of Babylon 5 had so much political intrigue and then it seemed to get watered down a bit, no idea why.

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ChrisAsmadi t1_j2br973 wrote

I don't think B5/DS9 really fits the premise - they're both excellent shows, and neither one is really better than the other overall.

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uberpop t1_j2bi4c2 wrote

A classic example is Addams Family and The Munsters. Addams Family was so much better.

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olddicklemon72 t1_j28qwl7 wrote

Parker Lewis Can’t Lose > Ferris Bueller

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AppShaman t1_j2bnkor wrote

Came here for this, the opening episode for FB had the new actor ripping on Mathew Broderick. Way to shit on your built in fan base.

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Pabsxv t1_j2ausvq wrote

Doom Patrol feels like someone at WB saw Legion and said “let’s do that but with some of our DC characters instead”

I like both shows and Doom patrol is separating itself more in the later seasons but Legion was so good and criminally undewatched

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caillousgaydad t1_j2bxbvn wrote

Wow I didn’t realize how similar they both were until you pointed this out

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BosephusPrime t1_j2a7frn wrote

Arrested Development > Schitts Creek

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tangerinelibrarian t1_j2axchm wrote

Arrested Development was great but fizzled out by the end, where Schitt’s Creek started slow but became something really special and ended beautifully. It’s also more wholesome than Arrested Dev and the humor style is pretty different imo. I love them both though!

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BosephusPrime t1_j2b9b4q wrote

I agree with AD. I could not get into the extra seasons after it came back. Sounds like I should give SC another go.

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WhatsWithThisKibble t1_j2bcfs7 wrote

How far into Schitts Creek did you get? Season one was the weakest season by far but after watching the series more than once I appreciate it more than on my first watch. My first run I loved David. My second I really started to appreciate and recognize how funny Alexis was. And YES I watched a third time and that's when I really appreciated Moira and honestly, Roland a bit. It's one of my favorite shows.

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BosephusPrime t1_j2bgjy2 wrote

I only watched the first episode, had trouble not comparing it to Arrested Development. Usually I give a show at least 3 episodes. I’ll have to give it another try.

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WhatsWithThisKibble t1_j2bgrli wrote

Oh yeah. Definitely give it more time. The first season is definitely the weakest of all 6. One good thing is the episodes are so short so it's easy to binge.lol

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redsyrinx2112 t1_j2as9dv wrote

When I started watching Schitt's Creek, within the first few minutes I could not stop thinking about Arrested Development. Luckily the show morphed into its own thing. I really like Schitt's Creek, but Arrested Development is in my top tier of comedies.

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BosephusPrime t1_j2b9653 wrote

Good to know that initial comparison fades away. Maybe I’ll give Schitt’s Creek another try.

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redsyrinx2112 t1_j2begsp wrote

Yeah, the characters actually grow and change. As the show goes on it has way more feel-good stuff than AD ever had. I still like AD more, but Schitt's Creek is a nice show with good jokes.

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belac889 t1_j2b79fq wrote

I think they're similar for the first half of the first season, but it quickly becomes obvious that AD is about people with, well, arrested development. While SC is about everyone growing. And then they quickly diverge from there.

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WhatsWithThisKibble t1_j2bcnrt wrote

They really did such a good job with each characters growth and development.

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belac889 t1_j2be09l wrote

Alexis's growth is so well done. I think the last season was fairly weak in comparison to the rest except for Alexis's story with Ted. They knocked that one out of the park. (Closely followed by that Stevie/David scene from one of the final episodes)

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bernbabybern13 t1_j2cxrdy wrote

This never even crossed my mind because of how different they are. I don’t think they should be compared because they are both absolutely brilliant.

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Doc_coletti t1_j28wkxu wrote

Star Trek voyager and andromeda

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HawlSera t1_j2bh98g wrote

Lets be honest..Red Dwarf was a better show about being marooned in deep space and easier to take seriously

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BitterFuture t1_j2c3euf wrote

<performs the extra long salute, reserved for especially important people>

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HawlSera t1_j2dfeop wrote

You know I recently rewatched the season where the whole crew comes back to life. And even though it's considered a low point for the series I would still take it over trying to watch the first season of Voyager again

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BitterFuture t1_j2di10h wrote

So say we all.

I rewatched some Voyager episodes in the lead-up to Picard. It was even worse than I remembered.

Beyond the thousand other nonsensical things, there are honest-to-god Injun Chief jokes in the fucking pilot. The mind reels.

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HawlSera t1_j2duwp8 wrote

I don't know if I hate Chakotay or Janeway more

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Chakotay is such a bizzare Native American stereotype who's backstories involves Alt Right conspiracy theories about how "Indians are secretly aliens!", he is such a stereotype would have been laughed off the set of TOS, a show from the 60's.

It's really bad considering my introduction to the show was binging DS9 (First time I'd ever seen the show from start to finish, my previous introduction was playing games while my dad had it on for noise when I was a literal child), so coming off the coattails of one of the best written black characters in all of sci-fi (my main man, Captain Sisko) to...

A character who is such an offensive stereotype, I am legitimately surprised he doesn't talk like

"Big Chief say to Chakotay, phaser is weapon of the pale face! Me bring Tomahawk to battle, drink Klingon Fire Water with proud of great hunt and brave spirit of Mighty Andorian Water Buffalo will smile upon Starfleet Tribe after scalping many enemies!"

Like when Janeway treated finding her "spirit animal", like she's getting her nails done at a fucking pre-teen slumber party, I could feel myself dying of cringe, wondering if an adult actually wrote this.

After I learned that Chakotay's dialogue had been written by a Klansman who made up a Native American ancestry to sell novellas about his "Proud Noble Savage people", I must say I was quite shocked. In fact, I would daresay my surprise was comparable to noticing a large ball of fire floating high up in the sky on my morning walk!

And can we talk about Janeway?

I gave up on the show during season 2, my dad (a trekkie in his own right) said "Okay, but you have only yourself to blame for missing out on 7 of 9! She's really awesome!"

The only thing that could have saved the show is if a real native American showed up and killed off Chakotay and then lead the crew in mutiny against Janeway, because holy shit. We finally get a female Captain, and she is either a sociopath or entirely incompetent.

I have never seen a character so consistently inconsistent, to the point where her morals realign depending on "What will prevent her from returning to the alpha quadrant."

In season one, her stance on the Prime Directive (one of the more questionable parts of Star Trek lore to begin with as it means Starfleet isn't allowed to offer humanitarian aide to anyone outside of their inner circle, despite being a post-scarcity faction that could give away an entire planet's worth of Thanksgiving and merely have to let the replicator charge for an extra couple minutes before using it again), rapidly changes from episode to episode.

Janeway either thinks believes it is a shining beacon that makes Starfleet what it is, OR, she thinks it's an archaic primitive ideal not worth the datapad it was originally stored on.

It depends on if following it or ignoring it will get her crew back home, if it will, she ignores it, if abandoning it "just this once" gets them home... oh well, now's not the time to compromise our ideals....

I think the last straw was when Q was all "Look I'll take you back home myself, just help me talk my friend out of killing himself and I can do it by snapping my fingers." and Janeway was like "I'm an immoral monster who hates my crew more than Chakotay's dialogue hates indigenous Americans, if I could kill your friend with a phaser rifle, he would already be dead."

Okay, I may be paraphrasing, they might have pretended that there's a moral argument for boredom being an adequate reason for suicide instead of going full mask off.

Janeway is the true villain of Voyager, and no other character in all of Star Trek is more worth a punch in the face. Hell, if I was stuck in a room with a phaser that had two charges, and Janeway and Gul'Dukat were there, I'd shoot Janeway twice and say "Look obviously Space Hitler did it." if Starfleet asked me any questions.

I have never seen a more two-faced scoundrel in all of sci-fi, and she's supposed to be the hero.

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BitterFuture t1_j2dwk9m wrote

>We finally get a female Captain, and she is either a sociopath or entirely incompetent.

I say...is it too much to ask for both?

>I think the last straw was when Q was all "Look I'll take you back home myself, just help me talk my friend out of killing himself and I can do it by snapping my fingers." and Janeway was like "I'm an immoral monster who hates my crew more than Chakotay's dialogue hates indigenous Americans, if I could kill your friend with a phaser rifle, he would already be dead."

I watched a bit longer than you did (far too long), and you really missed out on the later episode where Q returns and straight-up tells Janeway, "If you have sex with me, I'll send you and your ship home." Which is, uh...not a good look for anyone involved, writers included.

>I gave up on the show during season 2, my dad (a trekkie in his own right) said "Okay, but you have only yourself to blame for missing out on 7 of 9! She's really awesome!"

7 of 9 is, on the whole, a pretty interesting character, but much more potential than actual. Jeri Ryan is absolutely a great actress who's risen well above the dreck she was given, but seriously...they gave her a costume so tight she repeatedly passed out on the set because the costume was so tight she couldn't breathe fully. It wasn't just the writing on Voyager that was horrific, it was the entire production team.

And in her return in Picard, it's not much better. She went from slowly embracing her own humanity years before to being an unrepentant murderer, as well as acting out some pretty insulting "fan service" by jumping into a relationship with a woman she barely exchanged five sentences with.

...I have some opinions.

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HawlSera t1_j2ezo64 wrote

Lesbianism used to be "risque and sexy"

Now it's "We have an unlikable woman in a relationship with another one! Their dialogue is centered around how woke the show is!"

I'm saying Queer Female representation is still terrible for different reasons

Why would Q even want to bang Chakotay. His kind isn't even interested in sex... and if they were.. he could make his own Janeway. He can do anything.

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hytes0000 t1_j29tiqh wrote

Also Star Trek Voyager and BSG.

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SmallFunction3364 t1_j29vfti wrote

Eh I don’t think this counts, BSG came later and was built using another property that long exist, just a bunch of Moore’s spec scripts got repurposed for BSG and that was after the miniseries.

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CheeseNBacon2 t1_j2b8pot wrote

Mmm, BSG is what Voy was supposed to be. No end of episode reset.

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TheBoxOfficeReport t1_j28r2n1 wrote

Stranger Things vs. Dark

Kid goes missing in a smaal town, launching friends & family into a sci-fi, fantasy, conspiracy thriller.

Which one is better, though? That’s the question.

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Lil_Mcgee t1_j29o7tr wrote

Stranger Things is better if you're in the mood for a lighthearted adventure with likeable characters and 80s nostalgia.

Dark is better if you're more in it for the compelling long term mystery.

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u2sunnyday t1_j28s99h wrote

More like

12 Monkeys vs Dark

Hard to say which one is better.

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TheIllusiveGuy t1_j2as01j wrote

I might be one of the half a dozen of people who liked 12 Monkeys more than Dark.

Not to say it's better than Dark, both were great.

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u2sunnyday t1_j2dyma1 wrote

Yeah I honestly don't know which is better

Dark stronger start, but 12 Monkeys stronger finish.

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jracka t1_j2arx0i wrote

Stranger Things is really good, Dark is amazing.

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Mattyzooks t1_j2b3c48 wrote

I feel like the similarities only hold up for a few episodes though. Though Dark does keep the elements you say.

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poopquiche t1_j2bqqy5 wrote

Stranger things is great, but Dark blew me away. The way that Dark tied that insanely confusing and convoluted plot line up into a nice beat little bow with the series finale was just beautiful. It might be the most satisfying ending of any series I've watched.

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hooch t1_j292ab0 wrote

I never even put together that Get Shorty and Barry have a similar premise. Huh, that's neat.

Here's one that's sure to start an argument: Star Trek DS9 > Babylon 5.

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meowskywalker t1_j29luan wrote

I powered through a whole season of Babylon 5 before I had to accept that I just hate it. Hate it so much. Everyone is so gross and mean and it all looks so crummy. There’s an episode with a Soul Stealer and everyone on board acts genuinely concerned that there’s a Soul Stealer on board and that almost ended it for me, but I kept going. Only to learn that the reason the bone crown people were so obsessed with humans is because the bone crown people discovered bone crown souls were being reincarnated into human bodies and holy shit that’s actually the resolution to the season long mystery they'd been teasing, reincarnated souls!

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Imzadi76 t1_j2a8v6p wrote

No, that wasn't the real reason. But that happens when you stop watching when it gets interesting.

I have seen both DS9 and Babylon 5. B5 is better.

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twbrn t1_j2eh0st wrote

Gotta disagree. I enjoyed B5, but DS9 had better overall quality for longer, and a stronger finish.

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Imzadi76 t1_j2elhs9 wrote

We will have to disagree there. Untill the Dominion and later Worfs arrival it was pretty forgettable. It's hard to beat Babylon 5 build up and conclusion. I am not a fan of the final season but the reason were out of JMS control.

But it simply comes down to the fact that I never warmed up to DS9.

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jgemonic t1_j29qq7n wrote

You aren't wrong, but man I love Get Shorty. I hope (wish?) it could get an ending...

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mranimal2 OP t1_j29sis4 wrote

No I really like Get Shorty and I wish it could get an ending as well it's just whatever Get Shorty does Barry does better

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jgemonic t1_j29suvq wrote

Ya, they were different enough to scratch a slightly different itch I think tho

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burgertime_atl t1_j2aji0u wrote

A few 90's sci-fi series jump to mind:

  • DS9 and Babylon 5... star bases and space diplomacy
  • Farscape and the Lexx... space weirdness and high jinx
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TheSenileTomato t1_j2cdffl wrote

Love me the Jim Henson puppets on Farscape.

I found Lexx randomly on the Roku Channel and watched that for a while and had to go on TV Tropes to understand in detail what I was watching.

Lexx is what Farscape would be if it was more lewd-in-disguise (referring to the way Lexx got around censorship.)

It was a Canadian/German production, so, that might explain some things. Might.

Between the two, gotta go with FarScape. Much more tighter in terms of story. And again, Jim Henson puppets.

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MurielHorseflesh t1_j28r06j wrote

Patriot > Mr Inbetween > Barry > Get Shorty

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nevereatpears t1_j2b4loq wrote

Nah, Mr Inbetween is better than all those shows.

Pulls Ray's mad smile

Edit: To add some justification. It was consistently funny and touching. It had a mix of singular (episodic) and long-running storylines which remained compelling. Plus it ended on a bitter sweet high. The central performance was mesmerising, Ray could be in equal parts scary and a heartfelt character.

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respectthegoat t1_j2arb12 wrote

Perpetual Grace LTD > Patriot

Made by the same guy both canceled way to soon

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Raz1979 t1_j2b6b3l wrote

Patriot was such a good show. I will definitely check out PG LtD if that’s the case.

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MikeyMGM t1_j2b90j2 wrote

It’s a Living/ The Bear

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HawlSera t1_j2bgbio wrote

The weirdest is that Red Dwarf and Star Trek Voyager have a similar premiss but the former is not only better but is easier to take seriously because even Lister isn't as thick headed as Janeway or as racist as Chakotay

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nevereatpears t1_j2b5yyt wrote

Dave and Atlanta.

I preferred Dave, I bet you weren't expecting that.

Lil Dicky is a genius who wrote an unflinching character portrayal and wasn't afraid to get vulnerable and satirise his own ego with it. Same with the character of Gator, with an incredible look at bipolar disorder. On top of that, it remained very funny. Season 2 really elevated the show.

Atlanta started out strong but then became a circle-jerk for Donald Glover's ego from season 3. I always felt this was a shame as the first two seasons, especially the second, were really interesting. (Not seen Season 4 yet - I was so put off by Season 3).

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Erick_Galdino t1_j2bch2y wrote

I didn't like Atlanta's season 3 either, but thankfully season 4 went back to its roots and closed the series beautifully. You really should watch it if you liked the first two seasons.

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HandLion t1_j2bhgui wrote

I'm halfway through season 4 (just came out in the UK) and so far I would rank the seasons as follows: 4 > 2 > 1 > 3

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eyezonlyii t1_j2cktyl wrote

Friends and Living Single 👀

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Most_Victory1661 t1_j28wg6c wrote

There’s a Get Shorty tv show btw

I’d say the first time I ran into this was Parker lewis can’t lose and the Ferris buellers day off ( the tv show)

Parker lewis was amazing Ferris was a quick cash grab to counter program against Parker lewis

I keep telling any fans of Scubs to track down Parker lewis bill Lawrence was good friends with the writers on Parker lewis. The influence is pretty obvious

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mranimal2 OP t1_j28wt8h wrote

I know I'm talking about the TV show

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_avantgarde t1_j2bsnuj wrote

Funnily enough, I'm in the middle of doing a double rewatch of The Paradise and Mr Selfridge.

I still stand by my original opinion that Paradise S1 > Selfridge S1 and Selfridge S2 > Paradise S2. I'm currently on Selfridge S3 and so far it's a hot mess, so we'll see how the final verdict plays out.

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SassyGalBlogs t1_j2cds19 wrote

Loved Mr Selfridge (thought it was Selfridges - had to google) so so so much:

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_avantgarde t1_j2ebv43 wrote

The first couple of seasons were definitely a cozy watch!

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FreshFromRikers t1_j2bgiqn wrote

I love the history of thematically competing tv shows that happen at the same (or roughly the same) time.

The Adams Family > The Munsters

Bewitched > I Dream of Jeannie

Parker Louis Can't Lose > Ferris Bueller (TV version)

The Real Ghostbusters > Ghostbusters (Cartoons)

Seinfeld > Friends

Garth Marenghi's Darkplace > Children's Hospital

The Bad Half: The Bastard Son & The Devil Himself > Chilling Adventures of Sabrina

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awyastark t1_j2cu0o9 wrote

Degrassi and Skins> every other teen show

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pee_diddy t1_j29v97o wrote

Breaking Bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ozarks

BrBa - best show ever Ozarks - unwatchably mediocre

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BalrogSlayer00 t1_j2a529c wrote

Ozark isn’t as good but “unwatchably mediocre” is a complete lie. The only place Ozark truly dropped the ball was a very rushed/sudden ending.

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jl_theprofessor t1_j2ath8j wrote

There's something almost hypnotizing about seeing Marty trying to figure his way out of a jam. And like clockwork, someone thinks they have a better idea and screws it all up.

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FreshFromRikers t1_j2bki1h wrote

Ozark is worth watching for Julia Garner alone. Not to mention Laura Linney.

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cerberus00 t1_j2c3zqa wrote

Tom Pelphrey also did an amazing piece of acting in that show. That whole diatribe in the taxi was so good.

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pee_diddy t1_j2aa5gt wrote

Honestly I know a lot of people loved it but I found the writing so insultingly implausible after a while that I couldn’t watch any more.

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BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo t1_j2amesy wrote

BCS > BB. For me. I know not everyone will agree with that.

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pee_diddy t1_j2azrqw wrote

Reasonable argument! I still give BrBa the edge. Both spectacular.

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BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo t1_j2bexkm wrote

That’s fair! I think the biggest difference for me was that I binged BB and the character changes were just too quick, it was jarring and I had to quit. BCS I watched much more episodically, and that was way better for the slow burn.

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thedoctor3009 t1_j2bnuf0 wrote

Teen Titans GO! >Teen Titans > Titans

The 4400=Heroes (havent seen all of either)

Unsolved mysteries>Ripley's believe it or not

Twilight Zone> the outer limits

Avengers Earth's mightiest heroes >>>avengers assemble

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quick_dudley t1_j2cb60u wrote

The 4400 started out fine and mostly stayed that way until it finished, Heroes started out stronger but took a nosedive.

Also Manifest has a more similar premise to 4400 than Heroes does.

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kaybea4 t1_j2bnz0u wrote

The OC > 90210
This is Us > A million little things
The Orville > ST: Strange New Worlds

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RemoteRent3 t1_j2cf2ke wrote

Yellowstone is basically just a mediocre cowboy succession

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awyastark t1_j2cu4kp wrote

Controversial but

Brockmire >>>>> Ted Lasso

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whomda t1_j2c47n9 wrote

30 Rock > Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

Does anyone else remember that TWO series started at the same time based on Saturday Night Live? Studio 60 was written by Aaron Sorkin and starred Matthew Perry. It was supposed to be the hit winner, but we all know what happened.

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Mr-Snarky t1_j2c5jqe wrote

The Office > Superstore.

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bookant t1_j2apy6y wrote

The X-Files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fringe

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blackkristos t1_j2bjq2j wrote

Strong disagree. Once Fringe gets going, it's aces.

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keejwalton t1_j2c3m8u wrote

Ya fringe took a bit to find its feet, and it’s filler episodes were usually shitty, but damn it was fucking good on main story arc, I think one of the most underrated shows

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