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stuckshift t1_j1vlu9b wrote

Sarah Connor

Ellen Ripley

Princess Leia

Even the mom in gremlins. Lots of girlfriends, Grandmas and moms from the 80s and 90s tv were the heroes or basases, or complex characters.

What the F are you talking about, OP?

Edit: Audiences can tell when they are being pandered to. Ghostbusters with Kristen Wiig was not a well written comedy. Bridesmaids was extremely funny, and stands the test of time. Mean Girls as well, written by a bonafide comedy writer, Tina Fey.

There will always be space for tackiness and flops. But the issue is thinking that a movie is bad simply because it has a diverse cast.

Another issue of course is that movies are written by committee now to be viable to international audiences.

OP, I can no longer see your original post, so I am not sure what you said, but I wish it were still up so I could see what your point was. I apologize for jumping to the conclusion that you are one against “wokeness” which is a buzz word devoid of its original meaning much like “fake news” and “cancel culture” through its use by right wing pundits.

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okcrumpet t1_j1vmrpt wrote

OP mentions Ripley though. Pretty sure they'd agree with your examples and overall point

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SanSeb t1_j1vog0n wrote

Thanks bud, but this battle here is lost.

Just triggered people all around not understanding my issue with these movies and shows being made. Even wishing for black or asian people getting real stories and backstories is now racist. Completely weird.
The mentioned characters of stuckshift guy are what are well written female characters, caring for their kid/crew/people instead of being a ultra talented ninja with no flaws.

But whatever. Being called an incel that only speaks to his Grandma again in 3, 2, 1,..
Kappa

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vppmd wrote

If it makes you feel better I don’t think you’re an incel, just an idiot with confirmation bias.

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SanSeb t1_j1vq98e wrote

Great contribution insulting me instead of bringing one argument that relates to my post. Let me guess, you are from the US?
No clue, but strong opinions and only knowing extremes.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vra1i wrote

Okay, for example both House of the Dragon and Rings of Power had diverse characters and both were successful, but since one was more successful than the other, you consider HotD successful non woke and RoP a woke flop.

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SanSeb t1_j1vtf3y wrote

HotD has great characters. Female and Male. Therefore the issue with the race of the Valaryans can be overlooked. The lead protagonists Rhaenyra and Alicent show feminine attributes that make them believable, foremost the well-being of their kids. They are not jumping around and single handedly killing monsters and physically strong knights. Because no sense in a world that is not "woke".

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vtmro wrote

So it wasn’t woke because it was well written? See this is why I think you’re an idiot.

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SanSeb t1_j1vu6j3 wrote

Listen "idiot", the decision to cast them as black, is still woke. But they at least tried to make it fit with there being a whole family. Also, all the characters where well written, so this issue does not have a major impact on the show itself.

Meanwhile the lotr universe having only white male dwarves and one random black female one, is weird without explanation. The actress did a good job though I have to say.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vud6h wrote

Right, so well written shows= not woke, poorly written shows=woke.

See this is why I think you’re an idiot.

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ayylmao95 t1_j1vrg9u wrote

In this thread: OP Accuses replier of "strong opinions" and only "knowing extremes" when said replier responded to his strongly opinionated (one might say extreme) post.

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lt_dan_zsu t1_j1vs0ko wrote

Stop watching American media if you hate the US so much.

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Raincat21 t1_j1vqll9 wrote

People disagree with you = triggered. People like you will never learn because you will never acknowledge your own problem. What you gonna delete your post now cause your little feelings are hurt?

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SanSeb t1_j1vqtca wrote

Grown people insulting me over a post = triggered and embarrassing.

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Raincat21 t1_j1vr4cu wrote

A grown person who can’t take criticisms = pathetic and a crybaby.

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SanSeb t1_j1vtt2z wrote

Insults are no criticism. As said before, all you guys are obviously from the US, have no discussion culture and don't know anything else then being black or white and insulting people. That's why you stick to two political parties and support them like a boyband instead of caring for actual topics that would bring you forward.

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Raincat21 t1_j1vuxtc wrote

There are bunch of productive criticisms in the comment sections. Yet I don't see you addressing nor acknowledging any of them. Did you actually seek a conversation or you just hoped that people would agree with your cognitive distortions?

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Neat_Petite t1_j1vqin2 wrote

> Being called an incel that only speaks to his Grandma again in 3, 2, 1,..

Not at all. Your grandma called me just now, she said she won’t talk to your incel ass again.

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