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TapedeckNinja t1_j5l8bau wrote

Reply to comment by RusevReigns in I hate all Netflix shows except their multi cam sitcoms by RusevReigns

> It makes me think their biggest problem is shitty editing/directing.

> Stranger Things, The Crown, Ozark

Literally all of these shows have won prestigious technical awards for direction, cinematography, and editing.

For instance The Crown, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Fairytale. That same episode also won the Best Cinematography Emmy.

Stranger Things, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers.

Ozark, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series for the episode Reparations.

The criticism doesn't even make logical sense. Netflix pulls in top talent for their big series. People like Alik Sakharov on Ozark, who also directed stuff like Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones and Rome and The Americans. People like Uta Briesewitz on Stranger Things, who was a long-time DP for a ton of HBO shows (most of The Wire, John from Cincinnati, Hung) and then directed episodes of The Deuce, Here and Now, and Westworld.

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5ldgdy wrote

Don't care about the awards... I mean people are overrating Netflix including award voters.

Good directing/editing isn't showing off with some rehearsed one take sequence or drenching a show with blue light, it's usually more subtle than that like how to pace the episode to make it better... which obviously I don't think Netflix is good at.

One example off the top of my head... Stranger Things season 4 episode 1 is one of the shittiest editing jobs I've ever seen. The sequence of Eddie talking to the cheerleader, him then also being in the D&D game and then going back to the Eddie/cheerleader trailer scene was appalling.

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TapedeckNinja t1_j5litcc wrote

Are you confused by the passage of time?

They meet after school, he sells her weed, she asks for something stronger.

She, being a cheerleader, goes to the basketball game.

He goes to Hellfire club.

Later, they reconvene so he can sell her drugs.

I don't see how that is remotely confusing?

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5lu57b wrote

It's missing something in terms of a transition threads. There's no scene where he says to her I'm gonna go play D&D, I'll meet you back here later, or gets a phone call during D&D and says I have to leave the game. Him being in both places feels stuffed together and haphazard, as if they originally had them happen on different nights and then decided to try to do a montage with those two events and the basketball game. Hence bad editing.

Not that this is my only criticism of the show editing wise. Is there thought put into how the separate plots in this episode combine together to create one flow or are cumulative thematically? Is there any meaning from going from "Eddie and cheerleader in the woods" to "Eleven gets bullied" to "Joyce deals with hanging bucket thing" in the span of like 3 minutes. Or is it just we have these separate plots so let's just find some place to put them next to each other. I think if you gave me all the separate plotlines in a Stranger Things episode and asked me to put them together on movie maker I wouldn't do that much worse of a job.

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visionaryredditor t1_j5nke2w wrote

> There's no scene where he says to her I'm gonna go play D&D, I'll meet you back here later, or gets a phone call during D&D and says I have to leave the game. Him being in both places feels stuffed together and haphazard, as if they originally had them happen on different nights and then decided to try to do a montage with those two events and the basketball game. Hence bad editing.

this is one of the dumbest complaints i've seen on this site

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