Submitted by RusevReigns t3_10jjg35 in television

That 90s Show is perfectly fine... It doesn't give me the disgust when I see the other Netflix shows. One Day At A Time seemed ok. I even saw the first episode of the Dennis Quaid Christmas thing was watchable enough.

It makes me think their biggest problem is shitty editing/directing. Compared to stagey pointing and shooting style for sitcoms. Or maybe they just simplify it when doing sitcoms.

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olddicklemon72 t1_j5kr22k wrote

It’s trendy to shit on Netflix but they’ve produced plenty of quality programs over the years.

If you can’t find something good there outside of their mediocre attempts at sitcoms, that might be a young thing.

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5krls3 wrote

They're 0 for a million as far as I'm concerned including some of the most overrated shows of this era like Stranger Things, The Crown, Ozark, and Bojack. Their best shows aren't even as good as the Rings of Power.

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Mr_Ree416 t1_j5kthj1 wrote

Mindhunter, Dark, The OA, Queen's Gambit, Sweet Tooth, Arcane & Godless are all quality dramas. HBO is my jam, but Netflix has a healthy handful of good ones.

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5kyfuz wrote

Current list of scripted shows I watch ftr

Succession, Barry, The Rehearsal, House of the Dragon, The White Lotus

Hacks, Harley Quinn

For All Mankind, The Morning Show, Foundation, The Afterparty, Servant, Ted Lasso, Slow Horses, Mythic Quest, Severance

The Boys, The Rings of Power

The Mandalorian

Only Murders in the Building

Ghosts

+ just started the Last of Us and Velma, on the fence with Night Court

Not even that big a fan of multi cam sitcoms tbh.

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ForgivenessIsNice t1_j5l0d4x wrote

Netflix gets a lot of hate for there being a low percentage of good shows on the platform, and it makes sense. However, one should not overlook the reality that Netflix still has a large number of good shows. The bad shows outnumber the good, but the good is still there.

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TapedeckNinja t1_j5l8bau wrote

> It makes me think their biggest problem is shitty editing/directing.

> Stranger Things, The Crown, Ozark

Literally all of these shows have won prestigious technical awards for direction, cinematography, and editing.

For instance The Crown, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Fairytale. That same episode also won the Best Cinematography Emmy.

Stranger Things, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers.

Ozark, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series for the episode Reparations.

The criticism doesn't even make logical sense. Netflix pulls in top talent for their big series. People like Alik Sakharov on Ozark, who also directed stuff like Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones and Rome and The Americans. People like Uta Briesewitz on Stranger Things, who was a long-time DP for a ton of HBO shows (most of The Wire, John from Cincinnati, Hung) and then directed episodes of The Deuce, Here and Now, and Westworld.

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5ldgdy wrote

Don't care about the awards... I mean people are overrating Netflix including award voters.

Good directing/editing isn't showing off with some rehearsed one take sequence or drenching a show with blue light, it's usually more subtle than that like how to pace the episode to make it better... which obviously I don't think Netflix is good at.

One example off the top of my head... Stranger Things season 4 episode 1 is one of the shittiest editing jobs I've ever seen. The sequence of Eddie talking to the cheerleader, him then also being in the D&D game and then going back to the Eddie/cheerleader trailer scene was appalling.

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TapedeckNinja t1_j5litcc wrote

Are you confused by the passage of time?

They meet after school, he sells her weed, she asks for something stronger.

She, being a cheerleader, goes to the basketball game.

He goes to Hellfire club.

Later, they reconvene so he can sell her drugs.

I don't see how that is remotely confusing?

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retroracer33 t1_j5lk8zn wrote

if you think the directing and editing is better in fucking that 90s show compared to something like stranger things or ozark you truly just have terrible taste.

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RusevReigns OP t1_j5lu57b wrote

It's missing something in terms of a transition threads. There's no scene where he says to her I'm gonna go play D&D, I'll meet you back here later, or gets a phone call during D&D and says I have to leave the game. Him being in both places feels stuffed together and haphazard, as if they originally had them happen on different nights and then decided to try to do a montage with those two events and the basketball game. Hence bad editing.

Not that this is my only criticism of the show editing wise. Is there thought put into how the separate plots in this episode combine together to create one flow or are cumulative thematically? Is there any meaning from going from "Eddie and cheerleader in the woods" to "Eleven gets bullied" to "Joyce deals with hanging bucket thing" in the span of like 3 minutes. Or is it just we have these separate plots so let's just find some place to put them next to each other. I think if you gave me all the separate plotlines in a Stranger Things episode and asked me to put them together on movie maker I wouldn't do that much worse of a job.

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DragonTonguePunch t1_j5n3j4w wrote

That 90s was enjoyable but forgettable. It's good to see most of the original cast reprise their roles (wasn't a fan of this Fez) but the new cast have little to no chemistry as a group but they do have potential and hopefully they can become their own than a variation of so and so.

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visionaryredditor t1_j5nke2w wrote

> There's no scene where he says to her I'm gonna go play D&D, I'll meet you back here later, or gets a phone call during D&D and says I have to leave the game. Him being in both places feels stuffed together and haphazard, as if they originally had them happen on different nights and then decided to try to do a montage with those two events and the basketball game. Hence bad editing.

this is one of the dumbest complaints i've seen on this site

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SnappyTofu t1_j5pjvsh wrote

The sheer volume of content means they have more bad shows, but the amount of time they’ve been around combined with how much they put out, id be willing to bet they have more good shows than any other platform. Not necessarily better shows than say, HBO, but if someone were somehow new to Netflix content they would have so many good things to watch.

They make stuff for literally everyone, so the stuff they make for the lowest common denominator is gonna be trash. Also, I don’t want to hear about how “Netflix didnt make that, they just distribute it” nonsense when talking about a specific show. Arcane is only available on Netflix. Therefore I am subscribed to Netflix.

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