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Elons_a_distraction t1_j4d9cgx wrote

I….I actually kind of liked Velma.

…the first two episodes I had time to see anyway.,

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hotfriesandlacrieux t1_j4dbg4j wrote

Yeah, I mean it’s not the best ever but it’s not nearly as bad as the pile of negative reviews would imply.

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kultcher t1_j4dm672 wrote

Honestly, I don't have to watch the show or read the reviews to see exactly what's going on. The show probably is bad, but is 100% getting dog-piled (and more likely brigaded) because it's "too woke."

It's especially funny to me for a series like Scooby Doo. If you don't like it fine, there's literally like 50 years of almost continuous episodes and series of varying qualities and tones. And let's be real, the original show isn't exactly mindblowing, it's just fun nostalgia. I just can't imagine caring that much about it.

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BigPoppaPuff t1_j4dqz3t wrote

> (and more likely brigaded

lol of course always. Shit thing can't just be shit. It's always the racists fault.

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khanfusion t1_j4eonl7 wrote

So therefore it's never the racists' fault? Come on, like it's really that hard to believe that the extreme pushback on this show isn't motivated by a lot more than simply people not finding it funny.

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darkaurora84 t1_j4f4lqd wrote

It's getting an extreme pushback because the creators shit on an established beloved IP

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khanfusion t1_j4f54yr wrote

Pretending to care about Scooby Doo is cringe.

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avatarstate t1_j4f3ati wrote

Nobody said anything about racists until you did. For a show to have that low of a score on every platform with that high amount of reviews, yes it’s been brigaded.

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TheSeventhAnimorph t1_j4dat09 wrote

At least you can actually think for yourself. I'd be willing to bet most people spreading negativity about it haven't even seen it, or at very least went into it expecting to hate it and were intentionally looking out for all the worst aspects they could.

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Lidjungle t1_j4dwae7 wrote

I just felt like the humor fell flat and really had a meanspirited core. It wanted to champion diversity while making some of the laziest "Lol, butch lesbian cops" jokes ever. And it really has nothing more to say than "LOL. Lesbians. Funny, right??" There's no satire, no mirror to society. The only redeeming social commentary to be had is how badly the other sides case is made with this rather stupid show.

To be fair, I've seen worse pieces of junk get 4 seasons on Netflix. Yeah, Paradise PD, I'm looking at you.

Like I knew the lines I was supposed to laugh at... But the humor was just juvenile, poorly delivered, often times confusing... Is Daphne supposed to be Asian and being played by a white (cartoon) actress? Like there was a thing about that after the cringey in every way shower scene, and I just didn't get it. The whole thing was just so clunky and wooden.

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khanfusion t1_j4ep8q9 wrote

I saw a huge mix of good and bad writing throughout. When it hit for me they were very good jokes, but there were times when the jokes were just stale or fell flat, and shouldn't have been in there. The first four or so minutes of the first episode were hard to watch, honestly. But it got better and I laughed out loud like 3 or 4 times in there.

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Lidjungle t1_j4eqqip wrote

I was kinda starting to relax into the dad banter when they did the thing about her mom leaving because she hated them? So… I was pretty turned off by that point. Like… maybe retconning Shaggy into a straight edge was cute, but they went a lame direction with it. Her showing up in thot wear because she didn’t kill her mom and the ensuing scene? Cringe. So, if it had some redeeming bits, it may have been after it had exhausted its goodwill for me.

On a positive note, I learned about Harley Quinn from the discussion around Velma, and I’m really enjoying it.

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Elons_a_distraction t1_j4dwng6 wrote

I actually don’t need social commentary is my cartoons. I get enough of it everywhere else.

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Lidjungle t1_j4dz2mz wrote

Oh, it was full of social commentary. I didn't mean to give the impression that the show with the two lesbian cops wasn't trying to make a point - it's just that they did a very poor job with it.

Paradise PD is Juvenile - but it's also not trying to be anything but. They aren't tongue-in-cheek meta analyzing the shower scene and the plight of asian american representation with pretentions of depth.

I wouldn't even have to mention social commentary in the same breath as a cartoon - but Velma very much was making an effort at it. They just failed miserably. It was mean spirited and OLD. Things that were edgy takes in 1997.

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khanfusion t1_j4epka0 wrote

I am pretty sure they haven't made any kind of point about the lesbian cops, except to maybe link all the themes of partnerships. But that's a stretch.

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Lidjungle t1_j4erg7c wrote

Good to know they only played the lesbian cops for laughs then.

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khanfusion t1_j4esztb wrote

They didn't though. Like, there's just two lesbian cop partners who are partners. That's it.

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StacerStace t1_j4f9shc wrote

I didn't think it was bad at all. But many people have a hard time understanding satire.

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