AngelicDevilz t1_j4xjrsp wrote
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So of you could hire someone from a foreign country for cheaper than it costs to train a local then why wouldn't you?
And the moral implication of a country not having enough doctors because they all try to immigrate is that the poor citizens of the native country that don't have the skills to get an H1B visa are left without enough doctors. NPR has done a few stories on its devistating effects in India for example.
Not to mention that universal healthcare and ubi are not possible in a system that allows for high levels of immigration.
But please,tell me how I am wrong instead of just claiming I am. I used to help illegally immigrants skirt the rules to avoid deportation before I became a communist because I was unaware of the impact on the working class.
I suppose of you don't want social saftwy nets and you don't care about Americans in poverty then immigration is great. In reality many of these people should be working to improve their own countries to get them at USA levels.
hannibalbaracka t1_j4xo8pk wrote
Your entire premise is flawed.
A) There is little evidence that immigrants actually suppress wages of native born workers. https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/23550/chapter/2
This is true for both blue collar and white collar workers.
B) Immigrants are also job creators. They are more likely to found businesses (and employ others) than native born Americans. https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/immigrants-to-the-u-s-create-more-jobs-than-they-take/amp
C) The idea that it is incumbent on the United States to prevent people from entering the country as an altruistic measure to prevent brain drain in other countries is ludicrous. Not only does it actively hurt the United States, but it is not up to the United States to decide to help other countries in need of doctors by preventing them from immigrating to the US
D) Many countries with universal healthcare currently have high levels of immigration, so it is most certainly possible.
E) Many of these people who want to immigrate are incapable of “working to get their country to US levels” because of risk of persecution, war, climate disaster, authoritarian regimes, bad policymaking and more.
Immigration is proven to be good for the economy, good for immigrants, and good for workers.
And even if it wasn’t good for american workers (which it is), As a communist, you might remember that a certain someone said “Workers of the world, unite!” He didn’t say, “Workers of the world, as long as you’re American, unite.”
AngelicDevilz t1_j4xq95b wrote
I still disagree but am too stoned and lazy to refute you with sources and bullet points.
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