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seejoel t1_j63xw5w wrote
Bloorgons!
bumbling_womble t1_j640unk wrote
finger guns
Pew pew
hershebar99 t1_j645asq wrote
Cool.
Cool, cool, cool.
Rysler t1_j67xsp1 wrote
The question is, when are we?
OneManFreakShow t1_j63luxv wrote
> It's been rumoured that, with a big new budget and the backing of Disney Plus, Doctor Who could turn into a Marvel or Star Wars-style universe, with spin-offs based on iconic monsters like the Daleks and Cybermen.
God damn it, Disney. Learn to control yourselves.
ultimoGEARS t1_j63n12h wrote
TBF, RTD wanted to do the whole big spin-off universe before Disney made it cool.
He would have done this with anybody's money. Anybody's.
DaveShadow t1_j63pmpw wrote
Yeah, I mean Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures were a thing on his first run though. He was doing a shared universe 15 years ago. This news shouldn't surprise anyone who followed his original run.
olgil75 t1_j642q5z wrote
Not to mention all the unofficial spin-offs that have existed alongside the Doctor Who universe for years before that even.
DistortedAudio t1_j659044 wrote
They’ve tried it like 3 times. I remember they had that spin-off Class that was kinda like a darker Buffy set in the Doctor Who universe.
s3rila t1_j66tz8e wrote
I liked that one( as well as torchwood)
Mech-Waldo t1_j66j7oz wrote
And Terry Nation always wanted to make a spinoff show about the Daleks
-SneakySnake- t1_j63vx83 wrote
I've never been a big Doctor Who person but I've always liked the Daleks, there's something fun and quaint about a race of alien assholes who just want to kill everybody who's not them. No shades of grey, no sympathetic qualities but just the right amount of cheese and camp. I'd check out a show with them as the focus.
Notarussianbot2020 t1_j63ze2r wrote
Only if it's a buddy cop show where two daleks solve crimes and exterminate
tin_dog t1_j641jj3 wrote
Odd couple, please. A Dalek and a Cyberman.
TheIllusiveGuy t1_j663tp5 wrote
For emotionless killing machines, their snark is amazing.
Cybermen: Daleks be warned, you have declared war upon the Cybermen.
Daleks: This is not war, this is pest control!
Cybermen: We have five million cybermen. How many are you?
Daleks: Four.
Cybermen: You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?
Daleks: We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek! You are superior in only one respect!
Cybermen: What is that?
Daleks: You are better at dying!
LupinThe8th t1_j642wbm wrote
If the 13th Doctor's era gave us anything, it's a Dalek and a Cyberman having a brief moment of empathy by exchanging a "What. The. Shit." glance when the Master was dancing to Ra Ra Rasputin.
olgil75 t1_j642inf wrote
I can just picture them now screaming, "INVESTIGATE! INVESTIGATE!"
Dear-Attempt-2182 t1_j64kn91 wrote
I mean, this rumor seems based on nothing more than "could happen, Disney likes universes"
Also doubt Disney would put that much investment into something they don't own
OfficialGarwood t1_j65c057 wrote
For once, this decision was by RTD and the BBC, rather than Disney+.
MiltonFriedman2036 t1_j65p7u1 wrote
I'd really like to see a "smart" show showing the rise of the dalek empire and showing how their hierarchy functions...I feel like it's always done fast and haphazardly in the main series.
TheLast_Centurion t1_j65qpbc wrote
Year or two ago it was said they are planning DW cinematic universe so.. and RTD dis already try something akin to that with his original run.
Delicious-Tachyons t1_j64g7n8 wrote
It's Morbin' Time
acerbus717 t1_j640356 wrote
Hope this means we'll be getting more torchwood.
stumpcity t1_j64apu6 wrote
I don't think we will, unless it's radically reimagined. Not just because Barrowman is basically persona non grata now, but because Children of Earth was basically the best ending for that show and it then got horribly botched by Miracle Day in so, so, so many ways - not least of which being that was the season of the show that cemented the idea Torchwood WAS Captain Jack Harkness, and that Torchwood couldn't really be done without him.
Had Miracle Day been a) good at all and b) led by Gwen, with no Jack anywhere in sight, it could have had a lot more promise. Granted it still probably would have fallen way short of that promise, but still. There was an opportunity there that got so blown out, and then Barrowman's real life horseshit pissed on those ashes... I don't think Torchwood really comes back. Not unless it gets completely rethought/rewritten.
Now... a standalone 8-episode Eighth Doctor miniseries starring Paul McGann? Yes, fucking please.
ZaryaBubbler t1_j64bs9e wrote
Still salty about Ianto tbh
acerbus717 t1_j658idm wrote
I actually really love miracle day also barrowman was on the latest season of doctor who so I don’t think he is persona non grata.
WrathOfTheMeep t1_j65apgf wrote
It's more the fact that he kept flashing people on set that makes his return unlikely...
Elon_Kums t1_j65em6o wrote
But he already returned
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Elon_Kums t1_j65tjri wrote
The stuff about him getting his dick out was known for probably 10-15 years by now
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Elon_Kums t1_j662e9c wrote
It wasn't really an open secret, it was openly stated in interviews by the cast, Barrowman laughed and joked about it at conventions...
The only thing that changed is we now hold people to a higher standard.
horseren0ir t1_j67qak6 wrote
I was a fan of him and the show and I only heard about it a couple of years ago
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ChezMere t1_j65jduz wrote
That was a few years ago actually, and before the stuff about him came out.
Thanks-Basil t1_j679duq wrote
Children of Earth is one of the most depressing ends to a show I can think of. Nobody wins, everyone is sad, there’s no resolution and then it just ends.
Miracle day wasn’t great but it did open the door for more.
Hasn’t Barrowman been on Dr Who since his cancelling though? Wasn’t he in the last season, and teased future appearances?
stumpcity t1_j67d0oq wrote
>Hasn’t Barrowman been on Dr Who since his cancelling though? Wasn’t he in the last season, and teased future appearances?
Nope. He was not in the last season, and the one appearance he made in Whitaker's show happened before the bad word around him went critical.
MiltonFriedman2036 t1_j65p133 wrote
Russell Davies won't give a shit about that and will bring Barrowman back.
stumpcity t1_j66fz0g wrote
I really do think he gives a shit, and he will not be bringing him back.
There’s too much downside and very little upside and there’s no point in gambling on odds that long when the house is already staking you way beyond prior expectations
kodaiko_650 t1_j65duwq wrote
Holy cow, I was unaware of Barrowman’s issues.
Shadowbros_proOG t1_j684r84 wrote
If torchwood is soft-rebooted or revived, Barrowman most likely won’t return, but Jack will probably be referenced with something explaining why jack isn’t in the show
TheJoshider10 t1_j648jly wrote
That was such an elite show. The standalone third season Children of Earth was also ridiculously dark and raised some fascinating moral questions.
Ianto never forget. The shrine dedicated to him in Cardiff is still going strong.
SkeanGently t1_j66b4si wrote
Would rather see UNIT tbh. Get an international cast unite warring countries against the space invaders.
rangerxt t1_j65ipty wrote
horctwood
mikexmachina t1_j63vck4 wrote
The possibilities really are endless.
I'd love a Donna Noble comedic spinoff where she investigates alien phenomena, only to realize they're hoaxes or elaborate pranks.
Or a show with some past companions who form their own alien task force and patrol the Earth in the Doctor's stead, like a Torchwood 4.0.
LupinThe8th t1_j63wzpj wrote
At this point I assume that's what all former companions are up to. Sarah Jane, Donna, Tegan, Ace, Martha, Mickey, and Graham have all been shown getting into alien shenanigans Post-Doctor. The end of the last special even showed them forming a support group.
They just released a trailer for a Blu-ray collection of series 9 back in the 70s - and the trailer is a mini-adventure featuring Jo Grant and a Sea Devil. Yeah, they're marketing a Blu-ray box set with a reminder that 50 years later Jo is still having adventures. What other franchise does things like that?
mikexmachina t1_j63ztdu wrote
Yeah the support group is what made me think of all the past companions still out there. As someone who didn't watch the original series I think it would be fun to see those companions and flashbacks to earlier adventures. DW had such a rich (if not convoluted) history - they should tap into it!
Fugitivebush t1_j64j24w wrote
yea honestly, a companion show seems pretty likely as the first big earth focused spin-off.
As for Daleks and Cybermen and whats next, could be anyone's guess, but Doctor Who does leave for a lot of really good potential ideas.
DeedTheInky t1_j68627z wrote
Yeah it's always neat when they do those ridiculously long call-backs. Like when The Witch's Familiar had Davros still salty about Genesis of the Daleks from 40 years ago lol
ContinuumGuy t1_j64p2y3 wrote
I remember he said previously how there are three major space franchises in the English-speaking world (Star Trek, Star Wars, and DW), and that of the three, Doctor Who is the only one that doesn't have a near-endless stream of content. Not surprised he's looking to get to that level.
SkeanGently t1_j66b9i2 wrote
One day we’ll have four if Stargate can get its shit together.
CashWho t1_j677vuz wrote
Ehh that's kinda weird to say considering it does have plenty of content, just not televised. There's loads and loads of comics and books and once you add the audioplays, you have literally hundreds of hours of content to consume.
RogueIslesRefugee t1_j67nuh9 wrote
I think it was in regards to new content constantly coming out, not just having a large back catalogue of content.
CashWho t1_j682wwy wrote
Right but that's what I'm talking about. Doctor Who audioplays come out every month and while the other avenues have slowed down, we still get a few books and comics per year.
DeedTheInky t1_j686dth wrote
The 8th Doctor pretty much entirely exists in the Big Finish audio shows which I think is neat. In the 'main' show I think we've only seen him in the 90's TV movie, a Youtube short and that cameo in 13's last episode.
Delicious-Tachyons t1_j64geiu wrote
C'mon give us a show about Martha. No Mickey though. Fuck that guy.
uknownada t1_j65c22s wrote
Mickey did nothing wrong.
Delicious-Tachyons t1_j65ib8v wrote
uknownada t1_j65iiqy wrote
Oh.
Well, shit.
stumpcity t1_j649d75 wrote
The relevant quote from the GQ interview that Radio Times has (poorly) excerpted here:
>I watch the Star Trek empire with vast envy: the way that's turned itself from an old archive show into something fantastic. The cast is so progressive, so good, so beautiful. And very cleverly I think Star Trek is reaching out to making something like fifty-two episodes a year. So that's your yearly show, genius. And there's a problem with the BBC, it's a public service broadcaster, so there's only so much they'll ever commit to.
>
>So I thought — with no criticism whatsoever towards the people who were running it at the time, because they were running it within the BBC's measures — it was time for the next stage for Doctor Who. I thought the streaming platforms are ready, the spin-offs are ready; I always believed in spin-offs when I was there. I did Torchwood as a spin-off, The Sarah Jane Adventures as a spin-off. Those spin-offs declined when I left, and I can see why. And I very much left after 2008, when the money became scarce, I think that's fair enough for the public service broadcaster that the money is spent on other things.
So, yes, he's absolutely taking the money and running with it. And it really does look like while people keep comparing it to Marvel and to Star Wars (it happens in the GQ interview proper almost immediately as well, and has already forked off into it's own grumpy fanboy "Grr DISNEEEYYY thing here in the thread, even) what Russell himself is using as a model is Star Trek for Paramount+
As someone who just so happens to like most of what's happening with Star Trek at Paramount Plus - who in fact thinks this is probably the most consistently good and inarguably POPULAR that Star Trek has been in general for decades now - this sounds like a great sign, to me.
>!(No, I dont' like everything happening with Star Trek, but then again, I never did. Star Trek - and Star Wars - are more than half absolute shite and always have been. The weird notion that these multi-decade multimedia ongoing branded properties are best judged by being always good all the time with no fuckups ever is... bizarre)!<
FrodoFraggins t1_j63ndfi wrote
Sigh. Just get the return right and worry about that stuff later when everything is in place for you to have reduced time.
TheJoshider10 t1_j6488sc wrote
I mean Russel T Davies already created a successful Doctor Who connected universe almost 20 years ago. Of course he's going to be planning ahead again.
DeedTheInky t1_j686lby wrote
Plus I don't think he's physically capable of that sort of restraint lol. I'm fully expecting a huge decadent mess of every insane idea he can come up with, being broadcast at us from every direction possible and I can't wait. :)
WasabiSunshine t1_j64yxsh wrote
I need a Dalek office sitcom, give it to me russell
Geek_reformed t1_j65usxc wrote
I am okay with the general idea of spin-offs, but I don't a Dalek and Cyberman show. I'd be happy if I didn't see either on Who for a good while.
I still think a UNIT show. Sort of more X-Files meets Men in Black.
Dennyisthepisslord t1_j650yyi wrote
A spin off examining how all the various alien invasions seemingly get totally forgotten by the general public Basically men in black.
DMPunk t1_j642982 wrote
I've never liked any of the Doctor Who spin-offs and I don't understand them conceptually. The only thing that the show has ever positioned as being important is the Doctor, and whoever his companion is at the time. And given the nature of the show, there isn't the sort of cohesion that lends itself to the kind of franchise RTD wants it to be. It's too big and too random, with no internal consistency. And it's also the kind of show where the spin-offs would be subordinate to the main show. With Star Trek for instance, each spin-off stands equal to the others. I can't see that happening here, which makes you wonder why bother?
Alllllllllll that being said, if one of the spin-offs is a show called Master What about the Master and his companions flying around time and space starting shit, I would be very into that.
Quexana t1_j64y7zh wrote
Good writing solves all of that. If you make people care about different characters, they'll care.
Wagnaard t1_j63pz9l wrote
Think they need to fix the issues with the show itself. Although there have been spinoffs at least as good as the original show.
Smeghead333 t1_j6512z1 wrote
“Next week on Nurse What, the Nurse and his buddy face the Blah-necks!” Voiceover: “ERADICATE!! ERADICATE!!”
hannahstohelit t1_j659c6c wrote
This is adding more ammo to my theory that part of why Disney bought into the show is that they want to be able to add a new property to the Marvel-Star Wars cycle... the only issue from RTD's side is that unlike at the BBC where the spinoffs can air on BBC Two or Three, giving the original show pride of place, at Disney all shows would presumably be at the same level.
Vizjun t1_j65ee4x wrote
How about we just focus on getting Dr. Who back on track for now.
The-Soul-Stone t1_j65hasy wrote
Time for a UNIT spin-off. Maybe a Sarah-Jane Adventures style one with Ace too.
xX_Andr3w_Xx t1_j662cgp wrote
> Maybe a Sarah-Jane Adventures style one with Ace too.
This would be so cool
no_name_left_to_give t1_j662wef wrote
Do a 8th Doctor series for Christ sake!!
blues4buddha t1_j67eshp wrote
Finally, there’s a market for my “Harriet Jones, MP for Flydale North” prequels! Thrill to the exploits of everyone’s favorite backbencher as she pushes for improvements to the Flydale Infirmary.
Nateddog21 t1_j6bru0c wrote
Remember Class. That was a great show. I never watched any Doctor Who but I stumbled on the last season of Torchwood and Class and had a great time.
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Delicious-Tachyons t1_j64fzlz wrote
> "Those spin-offs declined when I left, and I can see why."
yes they were crap.
Elon_Kums t1_j65itrs wrote
Torchwood started rough but S2 was really good and Children of Earth was awesome
Wihtlore t1_j663nc8 wrote
Ugh, not again.
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anonypony1 t1_j64mh3t wrote
Torchwood Mf do you speak it!?
jfstompers t1_j63mvc0 wrote
Inspector Spacetime coming soon from Disney +