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SamScoopCooper t1_ja56e1c wrote

Have is it ever occurred to you that a lot of Jewish people, myself included, find South Park antisemitic because it normalizes those “jokes?” They’re based on harmful antisemitic beliefs. It’s clear you’ve done little research and less critical thinking about your favorite media and how your girlfriend might feel about it

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TheRealDynamitri t1_ja57o3i wrote

How can it be anti-Semitic if one of its two creators, and the guy voicing Kyle no less, is Jewish himself?

“South Park”’s thing is that they hit everyone, equally. No one is spared.

There we go, (some) Jewish people asking for a special treatment again.

PS I’m Jewish

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SamScoopCooper t1_ja5887d wrote

Just because Jewish people are involved doesn’t mean something isn’t antisemitic. Then people like OP think these jokes are okay to tell and it’s hard to distinguish between people who say “Jewish person always asks for money” because they’re quoting South Park and somebody who says it because they believe it.

Not to mention if they think it’s a joke - it’s easier for them sucked down those antisemitic right wing rabbit holes

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SamScoopCooper t1_ja58sg5 wrote

Also South Park is insulting to everyone isn’t a point in its favor. It doesn’t make it any less racist, sexist, antisemitic etc. it just happens to be all the things instead of one

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TheRealDynamitri t1_ja5f2op wrote

So you’re confirming that some Jewish people want special treatment for Jews but are OK with poking fun at everyone else, as long as it’s not them?

Or are we supposed not to make jokes out of anyone and anything? Isn’t that how comedy dies?

“South Park” talked about that one, too, tbf, and on several occasions - but to really understand it, you have to be able to see below the surface, and not be a bigot in the first place: Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or any other kind.

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SamScoopCooper t1_ja5f9zu wrote

I’m saying the way South Park makes jokes is insulting to all the groups it makes fun of. Satire only works when you’re hitting up. South Park hits down.

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TheRealDynamitri t1_ja5gj6l wrote

lmao, no.

Stop bringing disgrace to our people with comments like this, I’m actually embarrassed and don’t even want to be seen as sharing ancestry with you.

Thankfully opinions like yours are in a minority, and constitute just irrelevant rambling of our-of-touch folks. Old man yelling at cloud, etc etc.

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SamScoopCooper t1_ja5h2a6 wrote

Two Jews, three opinions. You don't get to speak for the entirety of the Jewish people. Neither do I. That's why I said "a lot of Jewish people" not all.

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TheRealDynamitri t1_ja5hg8l wrote

Well there’s Matt Stone and I (that’s 2), and there’s you (0.5).

2 is more than 0.5, so, yeah, we’re in the majority and you’re not.

What now.

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SamScoopCooper t1_ja5i3za wrote

That’s not a statistically significant enough sample for me. And I no longer feel like dealing with someone who has no interest in good faith criticism

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wackwithpoobrain t1_jabqgvd wrote

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand South Park. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kyle’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike South Park truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Kenny’s existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂

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