iaintdum t1_jdcj48p wrote
Dude, you are entitled to know what your wife is up to. The fact that you're feeling guilty about it demonstrates that you are neither overbearing or controlling, but rather taking steps to verify or dismiss suspicions.
With that said, you have a big problem. If you do nothing, she will absolutely drift further away until leaving you is a very easy decision. You need to confront her and demand she make a decision: to stay married and keep the family together, or get divorced and split the family apart. Her being faced with that stark decision MIGHT get her to snap out of it. If she decides to split up the family, then you'll know and can move forward. If she chooses to stay and make things work, then it sounds like you both have a lot of work to do.
Ignoring the problems and beating yourself up for figuring it out will NOT solve anything. Demand her to make a decision and own it. Obviously let her know which choice you'd prefer, but there should be no confusion that its HER decision and it needs to be made NOW.
[deleted] OP t1_jdcjemq wrote
Bro, I know her, and if I gave her an ultimatum, she would by default choose divorce just because I gave her an ultimatum.
iaintdum t1_jdckfm2 wrote
She knows you know that. Call her freaking bluff.
Articulate exactly whats happening and demand a decision.
- what a broken home does to kids
- her and the kids' stability with you vs without you
- facts about this 'grass is greener' guy: at the very least he doesn't respect her marriage now, so what makes her think he'd respect the institution if THEY get married
- ......
If you do nothing, you're marriage is over and you'll suffer. If you give her the ultimatum, there's a chance to fix things. If not, your marriage will end, but you can start healing
AzLibDem t1_jdcrb9b wrote
If she's calling you her ex and taking your kids to do stuff with him, she's already divorcing you. She's just letting pay some bills first.
If your original post is true and accurate, then it's over, she doesn't love you , and you need to start processing that now.
i37i t1_jdcn4z5 wrote
No one is entitled to anyone's privacy though. Normal adults talk and come forward when anything feels wrong in the relationship. But deciding to go through her phone says so, so much.
nickman940 t1_jdcnv76 wrote
Interesting that you’re choosing the side of the cheating woman over the guy who just wanted to know the truth. Especially with kids involved? God damn.
majestrate t1_jdcpfzt wrote
The gender of who did what doesn't matter, invasion of privacy is wrong.
nickman940 t1_jdcsrlv wrote
You’re right, the gender of the people doesn’t matter at all, but they are still gendered humans so using gendered language to describe them is fairly normal communication.!
Your comment adds nothing to the topic or the conversation, congrats
[deleted] OP t1_jdcu7ff wrote
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i37i t1_jdcohyo wrote
Who do you think I was referring to when I said "normal adults come forward when there's something wrong in the relationship'?
[deleted] OP t1_jdcosmb wrote
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i37i t1_jdcpalc wrote
Or maybe people like you who jump to conclusions? I wasn't answering to OP first of all, I answered to the dude who literally said 'you're entitled to know what your wife is up to" like going through her personal stuff is the way to go. My answer was regarding that, plus the fact that normal adults communicate, they don't cheat nor do they invade each other's privacy. Please point to exactly where I am defending the cheater =)))
[deleted] OP t1_jdcqcxy wrote
>Please point to exactly where I am defending the cheater =)))
idk about your privacy thing but if privacy should be a thing in a married couple then i dont think you'll ever discover any cheater. and when you are married i dont think the concept of "personal stuff" shoould exist at all.
maybe im also a shitty person like op.
elianrae t1_jdcw5hc wrote
jfc if you think marriage means sharing absolutely everything all the time please go and get some fucking therapy
[deleted] OP t1_jdcydm3 wrote
aww...imagine you hv to curse to say an illogical arugment,
then if you hv to hide anything from your life partner then you are making the thing more and more SUS bout you.
elianrae t1_jdcyibv wrote
literally just how I talk but okay
[deleted] OP t1_jdcymns wrote
fine by me.
elianrae t1_jdcyo5i wrote
so anyways do you share your toothbrush or is that an okay "personal" item to have?
[deleted] OP t1_jdcyvpd wrote
if my partner wants to use it, fine by me.
i'll buy a new one for me.
elianrae t1_jdd0gz3 wrote
yeah that's a fair and conflict free way to enforce that boundary but you're still ending up with personal stuff hey
like sharing everything sounds nice and romantic in theory but there are a lot of potential negatives to getting really deeply enmeshed
Sharing all of your interests and doing everything together leaves people lost and deeply lonely if their partner dies before them. Fully sharing finances (like no longer having individual bank accounts) leaves you more vulnerable to financial abuse. Snooping through your partners phone might just end up ruining your surprise birthday party.
healthy relationships are formed when two people with independent lives make space for something shared and build it together, not from subsuming themselves into the relationship until nothing individual is left.
anyway that's what I meant by my much shorter and somewhat ruder comment 😁
[deleted] OP t1_jdcq01d wrote
>says so, so much.
aww..
ofc going tthru someone's phone is so bad as compared to calling your now husband an ex.
op is a peice of shit imo.
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