Submitted by Miser-Mike t3_y4o8bq in tifu
thrwaway9932 t1_isfb1fu wrote
I'd blame this on parents, both yours and hers. Yours for not educating you that women are always equally human as men, and don't become less so from having a period. Hers for not educating her that she shouldn't date misogynists like you.
KautiousNupe55 t1_isgu95o wrote
Wait, so him not wanting to shower with her during her menstrual cycle = him thinking she's less of a human?!?!?! 🤔
Using your logic, if she said that she wouldn't want to shower with him after a long day of playing rugby because she was grossed out when she has to watch him pull back the skin of his uncircumcised penis to clear out the smegma in the shower = her thinking he's less of a human.
Her not liking him with a mouth full of crooked teeth = her thinking he's less of a human.
Her not liking him because he's 5'0 and weighs 300 pounds is = her thinking he's less of a human.
Her having any physical, religious, ethnographic or personal preferences whatsoever in regard to which men she chooses to date and how she chooses to interact with them physically, socially, sexually or personally is = her doubting the validity of their humanity?!?!
Why default to such narrow-minded, melodramatic diatribes to get your point across?? Why default to accusations of misogynism when the guy could just simply be a bit ignorant and uniformed with this kind of stuff.
Why result in blaming the parents of these two young people when you've clearly never met or interacted with either of them ever in person??
Do you feel better about yourself when you tell other people that they ain't shit, their own lived experiences and perspectives ain't shit and their parents ain't shit - when they come to a reddit page focused on admitting guilt or a misunderstanding or mishandling of a situation when they're clearly seeking penance?!?!
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Chemical-Hawk3835 t1_iswvazd wrote
Him saying that he "just wanted to give her her space to sort out womanly shit" is essentially saying he is clueless and uncomfortable (which is partially fine), but he is also saying he doesn't want to learn more or do better, or just have a supportive conversation about how some physiological functions make him uncomfortable (which is where it crisses over to not fine). That's where the "less than" idea comes from. "Womanly shit" is beneath him.
KautiousNupe55 t1_isxpnpe wrote
When she asked him to join her in the shower shower and he said Nah, that should have been the end to it. The guy was tipsy and on the verge of passing out from the cocktails they had earlier.
But it wasn't the end of it. She took the rest of her shower to sulk in her insecurity and maybe her own frustrations about getting her period on this exotic vacation and the scene was being set for some kind of confrontation.
He did not say the "he wanted to give her space to sort out womanly shit" until much further in the conversation and it's clear that you have no interest in all the other problematic shit that took place up until that point.
He never said that he had a problem with the "physiological function" of a woman having a period. He simply communicated (in not the most ideal terms or tone as I have acknowledged) that he wasn't enthusiastic about joining her in the shower while she's on her menstrual cycle. You can try and womansplain a period (only woman understand it) or assuage the biological reality of menstrual cycle by referring to it as a physiological process (true but I can see what you're doing) or we can talk about period blood being biological waste just like urine, bowels, smegma, and not conflate people not wanting to interact with another person's human waste as that person not acknowledging another person's humanity.
If he does not want to join her in the shower because he's tired and tipsy OR because he doesn't feel comfortable with the thought of standing in bloody water OR simply because he just doesn't fucking feel like it, that should be OK.
You don't seem to acknowledge or even care about her narcissistic tone nor her hyperbolic sense of entitlement.
You don't seem to acknowledge her manipulative nature and her using the 'tampon whole swimming' trope as textbook gaslighting.
You don't seem to even acknowledge the guy's humanity or his right to have wants/needs/preferences irrespective to a woman's wants/needs/preferences
The brazen levels of cognitive dissonance in these comments is exhausting....😩😫
Chemical-Hawk3835 t1_isxvog5 wrote
I did not say that he said that to her at the begining. I agree, him saying "nah" should be enough. If she was feeling insecure she should have asked questions instead of getting butt hurt. But he admitted his true thoughts to us with the comment I quoted. And he does need to do a lot of maturing, just like she does. Both are wrong, but only he posted. So I only commented about his issue. Your comment that "You can try and womansplain a period (only woman understand it)" assumes I am a woman. And also infers that women don't understand things that need to be mansplained. Interesting and telling. And you point at others for cognitive dissonance and how they are exhausting 🤣
TheZamolxes t1_it0fumk wrote
I don't have a dog in this fight but I just wanted to say you're incredibly well spoken.
thrwaway9932 t1_ish0s2n wrote
Such a long comment 🤓 totally missed my point.
KautiousNupe55 t1_isi4g59 wrote
Oh no - I understood your point CLEARLY. The interesting part is that your comment didn't articulate the point that you THOUGHT you were making.
Text book Reductio ad absurdum fallacy.
I too would look for the emergency exit or default to gaslighting if the foundation of my argument was built upon blatant strawman arguments.
thrwaway9932 t1_isk5wz8 wrote
Do you feel better now that you have apparently demonstrated your smartness in logical fallacies to the internet?
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