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I love him with all my heart and met his huge family for the first time since we started dating 6 months ago. The day began with his father picking Fox News-fueled political fights with me every time my bf left the room. I’d literally be sitting on the sofa and my bf would get up to help with something in the kitchen and his dad would ask for my opinion on something controversial out of the blue (kneeling during football national anthems; the demise of the coal industry; Trump v Biden; you name it). Had to meet about six thousand extended family members who all knew each other and like to argue. Bf made some sexist comments at my expense that made me want to die of cringe.

I became acutely aware that aside from myself all the women were busting their asses in the kitchen and the men/boys were doing jack shit and the vibe felt gross. To boot, my own family not only made zero effort to contact me and wish me a merry Christmas but didn’t respond to my texts attempting to do the same. I had slept terribly the night before after driving all day. Dinner wasn’t going to be ready until 9:30 pm and i also hadn’t eaten anything other than half a portion of beef jerky since 12/23. I felt literally sick and tired and i just… left.

Now my bf thinks I’m a brat and his family likely hates me. I realized that the secret santa gift for bf’s dad that i paid for was still in the trunk of the car so I did drive back over there so bf could get it but that’s it. I was done. I haven’t had a nice Christmas since childhood and i just hate this holiday. All i see are happy stories everywhere and all this good cheer and I can’t relate.

TL;DR i just kind of lost it and couldn’t cope with my boyfriend’s huge family Christmas and now his family thinks I’m an asshole. I guess i am.

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janetscousin t1_j1pylny wrote

H.A.L.T hungry angry lonely tired. If I am any of these things I stop what I am doing and fix it before I damage a relationship. Christmas is lot if pressure when another person's family is involved. Don't beat yourself up over it. Learn and move on. Merry Christmas!

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FrakTerra t1_j1r8zyi wrote

I LOVE your acronym!!! Like my wife and I are literally gonna institute this as a rule for both ourselves and our little kids. Thank you thank you. Whoever seems cranky we will start asking HALT!

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mhck t1_j1p5zrf wrote

You need to eat, honey. You’re not going to deal well with life’s little annoyances (and yes, these are little annoyances) if you haven’t eaten anything in 48 hours. It’s not healthy. I don’t know what you’re punishing yourself for, but you aren’t gonna get your head right if you don’t take care of your body.

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gerishnakov t1_j1qx7km wrote

This experience does not sound like a little annoyance, it sounds like a red flag.

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mhck t1_j1rietc wrote

If you haven’t eaten in 48 hours, you’d describe a lot of things in a way that makes them seem like huge red flags. I don’t think we can get an accurate read on whether this is toxic or whether this is typical heteronormative BS because the narrator of this story was at their absolute limit of emotional control at the time it happened. That’s not a healthy place to be, whether you’re in a toxic environment or a pretty standard one.

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Elaine_Benes_Lovr t1_j1sgbrz wrote

That fact that Fox News gets played at a parents house is enough for me to end things with a partner. I DO NOT want to marry into that type of family.

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Middle_Appointment20 t1_j1sxgqi wrote

My FIL is a Fox News, breitbart, newsmax idiot. But we get along because, for the most part, we do jor discuss it. He knows I’m a liberal and mostly leaves that stuff alone. I have zero respect for his point of view but I didn’t marry him. I married his daughter( who I turned into a liberal:) )

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TucuReborn t1_j1ymsb7 wrote

This is me and some of my best friends, basically.

My best friend from middle school's whole family are massive GOP fans, and he's more moderate but still leans a bit more to the right on a lot of things.

Me and him? We can discuss and debate, then have a beer and laugh at how we can get along better than professional politicians while watching a stupid movie or anime.

Another friend is similar, with mostly left leaning views but has a few things he feels strongly about that are right leaning. He tries to stay apolitical because he hates the country's politics, but every now and then we talk politely about things.

My ex was similar as well. She was super liberal, more so than even me(and I'm a diehard BernieBro), but her whole family was death before Dems. I did not get along well with her family, but neither did she.

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L3Jane t1_j1r60w9 wrote

This is really more than a little annoyance, it’s a toxic environment regardless of how hungry she is.

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mhck t1_j1ri4me wrote

I suppose some people are so principled that they walk out on their entire relationship because their boyfriend happens to have been raised in a fairly typical heteronormative household, or because that same boyfriend has some relatives they disagree with politically. Many, many Americans spent yesterday in homes where the women cooked while the men watched TV, and where they got annoyed with their relatives who baited them about their policies. If that was the bar for “so toxic you need to leave” the January divorce rate would be nearing 100%. It’s not great. It’s not okay in the sense that we shouldn’t try to improve it. But it is unfortunately normal and common enough that some of the onus is on the individual to better manage their ability to respond to it.

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L3Jane t1_j1rqm4v wrote

It’s the first time she’s met the family and at this first meeting, the father waits for her to be isolated and the intentionally starts asking provoking questions to get a response from her? The boyfriend makes sexist comments at her expense (enough to cause embarrassment)?

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Initial_Influence428 t1_j1u9ekq wrote

That’s what stuck out for me, not only did BF leave her alone for the inquisition, he started picking on OP. If he behaved that differently around his family the FIRST TIME be brought her around, his ‘good behavior’ when not around them is a lie. That’s who he is for real, he showed her and she should believe him. You deserve better, OP, and leaving that toxic environment was a good first move for your self preservation. Take care

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TucuReborn t1_j1ymvn0 wrote

I'm a dude, and I'd have done the same as OP. I'm left leaning, and if my SO's family started picking me apart and my SO joined in, sorry, it's over. You're supposed to have each other's back, not... this...

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Kayback2 t1_j1p4feo wrote

None of the guys were helping but your BF kept leaving to help?

K.

You're an adult, manage your own blood sugar levels.

As for the asshole family? You're probably better off without them anyway. I know the knee-jerk reaction here is to say dump them, but dump them and find better. It won't get better there.

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MedeaRene t1_j1q1s2m wrote

>I haven’t had a nice Christmas since childhood and i just hate this holiday. All i see are happy stories everywhere and all this good cheer and I can’t relate.

I hear ya and just so you have more Christmas stories you can relate to I'll give you a rundown about mine this year and last.

This year: spent with my FIL and his spouse (husband's stepmother), FIL/StepMIL picked a fight about mental health "labels" on Christmas eve, had a new gas range cooker installed on Christmas eve that ended up with a gas leak due to incompetent installers. Christmas day, dinner was abandoned half eaten after my husband innocently pointed out a dent in the oven doors of the new cooker, courtesy of the installers, which sent my StepMIL into a depressive, anxious, tearful fit. She went upstairs to cry and refused to come down until late evening.

Last year: spent with my MIL and her spouse (husband's stepfather), husband and I were largely ignored most of Christmas eve and day, they all opened presents without us (even the ones we had brought over the previous evening) so we opened our gifts from them alone. StepFIL sat silently watching his horseracing and being antisocial. I had some video calls with my overseas family to nake, StepFIL felt slighted for no reason over it and picked a huge row with my husband over me and we left shortly after the screaming match ended. The fight ended with husband and stepFIL yelling, myself and MIL crying and SIL trying to comfort me by taking me up to her room away from the fighting. Boxing day was very awkward and quiet.

I haven't spent Christmas with my parents since 2018 and when I did it was super stressful with my controlling/abusive mother trying to make everything picture perfect and making the whole day miserable for everyone each year.

Honestly the gas leak/cooker tantrum this year is the best Christmas I've had so far, along with the last Christmas I spent in my FILs house in 2019!

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acmecorporationusa t1_j1p6vs9 wrote

I initially wanted to respond that it sounds as if you are all caught up in your feels, but then it occurred to me "shit, I get hangry too".

Asking your opinion about contentious topics does not necessarily equate to picking a fight. After all, they have never met you either.

Perceived gender disparity in domestic tasks in a holiday setting might just be how they have always done it. It might well be offensive to you based on your life experiences, but that doesn't make it objectively offensive.

You have six months invested. If it was truly that horrible, bounce. There are many more fish in the sea.

Alternate response: Grow up, for fuck's sake.

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FG88_NR t1_j1q0tk8 wrote

The only thing here that was a real issue is the sexist comments her bf made at her expense.

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activ8r t1_j1qayfo wrote

Absolutely, but as she didn't say exactly what these comments were it may well be a misunderstanding or overly sensitive response. OP seems to be on edge as it is, but is an unreliable narrator of the situation. Not much we can judge objectively here.

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j5p332 t1_j1qqh1v wrote

I disagree completely. You’re not. It’s not even being a brat. The family wasn’t truly welcoming. They wouldn’t stop pushing and prodding. You had boundaries and you acted on them accordingly.

By all rights, we appear to have differing political points of view but I would never let that get in the way of a holiday. Controversial topics and discussing opposing viewpoints can be fine if the conversation is truly in good faith. But it sounds like it was more of an own the libs thing. And it probably isn’t a good idea for the first time meeting someone, anyway. The family who can’t contain their toxicity even for the duration of the Christmas family gathering is the collective A.

And love him or not, I don’t know if that’s sustainable long term. Hating your life every time you see your significant other’s family is no way to go through life.

Edit: Typo and phrasing

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jthompson473 t1_j1qvph7 wrote

Sounds like you got a peek at your boyfriend's true colors.

Those opinions ain't gonna change either......

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0shocklink t1_j1pk1hf wrote

Minor annoyances and small problems become big later on. If you see this as a serious relationship with potential, you might want to consider the future and family dynamics. Political divides these days are not just political, they have moral under tones and they say a lot about a person apart from being D or R. If this is an issue for you, you should reconsider your relationship.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1q6cqd wrote

Politics have moral undertones? No, they don't. There's just people who make politics their morals because they lack morals anywhere else. If my voting choice is what makes me moral, then I can do whatever I want the other 729 days that I'm not voting.

I don't know of a single family who has healthy relationships that agrees on politics. The moment someone starts saying that you're killing people by voting Republican, you need to exclude that person from your life.

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gerishnakov t1_j1qymsv wrote

Politics absolutely have moral undertones. Everything has moral undertones. Dismissing the notion itself betrays your own morals, as does the particular example you choose to give at the end of your post.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1r0ahu wrote

Haha, that example was meant to trigger psychopaths like you. Voting Republican doesn't kill anyone, just like voting Democrat doesn't kill anyone.

Your problem is that you think you're morals are superior even though they consist of a single activity every 2 to 4 years that has no impact on anything. Trump was in office for 4 years. The world didn't end. Obama was in office for 8 years. The world didn't end. Casting a ballot in a free country isn't a choice between right and wrong. It's more like the choice between soup or salad.

I'm sorry that your family is dysfunctional and so cannot get along without extreme limits on the words that can be said. That has to be stressful and exhausting.

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gerishnakov t1_j1r1qp3 wrote

Wow, way to say more about yourself than I could possibly have elicited. Honestly, I've not seen a better example of projection in a long time.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1r3q5k wrote

lmao, you're just all over the place. Tell me, what does pointing out that the world didn't end when people voted for one political party over another reveal about me?

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gerishnakov t1_j1r7a0c wrote

It's not the facts of what you're saying that are revealing, but the way you're saying them.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1r80qm wrote

What? Dude, that makes no sense. If it's the way I'm saying them, then just tell me what it's supposedly revealing. It seems like you're just a moron who wants to feel superior by saying that you voted one way or the other, but go ahead, explain how I'm a bad person because I don't vote Republican.

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gerishnakov t1_j1r8tdo wrote

Literally every time you reply you give more examples in your language of why you're the asshole here. I'll help you out once in this response by quoting you: "it seems like you're just a moron who wants to feel superior"; calling people morons on the internet is a first class ticket to sounding like an asshole.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1r9sdd wrote

I don't care if I sound like an asshole lol. I'm really not concerned about your feelings. Grow up and get over it. You claimed that the example I used, that anybody who says that voting Republican kills people is a psychopath who should be excluded from your life, revealed more about me than you could have elicited. Then you claimed that I was projecting. Then you said it wasn't what I said, but how I was saying it that was revealing. But you've never said what I was supposedly revealing. Is it just that you're overly sensitive and that you get your feelings hurt on the internet all the time? Cuz that's got nothing to do with me, kiddo.

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gerishnakov t1_j1rcm9t wrote

I am so done with you. Have a nice life dipshit.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1rh90d wrote

Oh no, whatever will I do with... What's your name? Ah, shit, I really don't feel bad at all about this. Anyways, you have fun being miserable with your family, always worried that you're gonna say the wrong thing or be cancelled. I'll do the same, except, ya know, I won't be miserable or worried. I will be having fun, though, so thanks for your well wishes!

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pullerpusher3000 t1_j1rj3y4 wrote

Fun little story! Every time you vote for a candidate that is funded by pacs and super pacs are making laws for them and not you! So technically, you are killing people because these politicians are keeping things like insulin astronomically high, then tying your health insurance to your job in order for you to maintain a semblance of balance in order to just work. Don't forget where these people get their money from in order to continuously campaign! But sure, keep on acting like you got the answers to everything, mate! You literally suck the air out of a room!

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XavierHigdon t1_j1rrcus wrote

Damn, you mean a vote for Joe Biden was a vote to kill someone?

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merrydragon412 t1_j1q36bd wrote

It’s only a FU if you stay with this guy. If he was being sexist to you then you might want to rethink investing in any more time with this chump.

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OriginalGreasyDave t1_j1qdhyq wrote

You didn't FU. BF's family FUed by not making you feel welcome.

This was the first time you were at the family and they treated you like this?

Ignore the negative comments in this thread.

The basics of hospitality are that if a stranger comes into your home you offer them food. You make sure they aren't thirsty or hungry. You don't set out to make them uncomfortable by asking leading political questions just to get a raise or a reaction.

Why didn't the father offer you something to eat? Why didn't your BF check if you needed anything. You are a guest. If you're the first time there, it's not up to you to start making demands. It's up to them to offer.

IF this family don't know that then you don't want to spend more time with them. Make this clear to your BF and if he can't see it then you're better off without him.

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Squigglepig52 t1_j1qft7n wrote

to be fair - most people aren't going to think, on Christmas Day, that you hadn't bothered to eat for 2 days previously.

this wasn't a case of dinner taking a long time to serve, this was somebody who skipped food for 2 days.

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M002 t1_j1r2d84 wrote

Also, who the f has Christmas dinner at 9:30, without at least doing a big breakfast or appetizers earlier in the day. How did OP not eat??

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newwriter365 t1_j1q01wj wrote

I’ve been there, but didn’t drive myself, so I was not able to opt out.

I’ve also had many years of bad Christmas’s, so this was all too real.

All I can say is, “I’m sorry you went thru that. I wish you peace and love.”

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moth88 t1_j1pa6pu wrote

Hey, sounds like my christmas. Honestly? Fuck them

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Darth_Bfheidir t1_j1rj8kr wrote

>Bf made some sexist comments at my expense

Get out

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ParadoxicalUnicorn t1_j1qxbpe wrote

I know this may sound harsh but, it was a “blessing” to experience this as a girlfriend and not a fiancé or wife. You may only be dating now, but if you ever consider marring him you have to consider when you marry someone you also marry their family. You have to look at the situation and ask yourself if you can/ are willing to live with this for the rest of your life. And if your boyfriend is not checking up on you and making sure you feel safe and comfortable in an unfamiliar environment, then you have to ask yourself, are you okay with fending for yourself?

The fact that there were no finger foods while you wait for a late dinner is telling about the stress levels that this family may have in general. No, you don’t have to manage your sugar levels by yourself, you are a guest at a dinner party, who starves their guess and bombards them with weird political fodder? It feels as if they intentionally made things uncomfortable and your “boyfriend” either is clueless or just doesn’t care. Or worse of all, it’s normal for him and this is the kind of behavior to expect from him during your relationship.

“In-laws”, are a mirror to what you can expect in your own home structure with that person going forward.

You were right to leave the situation. If you were not being treated with respect and courtesy then why subject yourself to misery? If your boyfriend can’t see or understand that then maybe you should evaluate if you are willing to put in time and effort into a relationship with someone who won’t be willing to make an effort to meet your needs and see your self care efforts as “bratty”.

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HolidayAd4875 t1_j1rcbxx wrote

Boyfriend making comments at your expense is a dick move, red flag.

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TucuReborn t1_j1yn3sj wrote

Not a red flag, a giant red fireworks display that says "GTFO"

Your SO, be it boyfriend, girlfriend, fiancé, or spouse needs to have your back. I'd be appalled with myself if I let my family poke and prod my SO like that, and if I found out afterwards I'd be livid that I wasn't told earlier so I could chew my families ass off.

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thesuddenkind t1_j1rg4tu wrote

If your BF's reaction to you leaving is to think you're a brat, you can do better than him.

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mrzurkonandfriends t1_j1p7p30 wrote

To be fair that's not exactly a welcoming family bf included I've never been a Christmas person either (no idea why it just never fit me) but if we can't get together I'll still visit my parents and have dinner together or show up for regular Christmas but to me it's just family time which gets tougher when it's not a family you know I hope the next one goes better whether you become a Christmas person or just go through the motions I hope it isn't a ball of stress you're forced to go through

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Fun-Pea-880 t1_j1paic6 wrote

> I haven’t had a nice Christmas since childhood and i just hate this holiday. All i see are happy stories everywhere and all this good cheer and I can’t relate.

I hear you. I haven't celebrated Christmas in over 32 years. I still buy a present for my other half, but that's it. I don't even wrap it.

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YoggyYog t1_j1pe24f wrote

Sounds like an unbearable experience. I think you made the right decision to leave, because it doesn’t sound like anyone was going to give you the basic kindnesses you deserve. Your bf is also an asshole at the very least for getting mad at you instead of being understanding, given the fact his dad is a raging asshole.

I don’t think your bf loves you nearly as much as you do him, and it won’t get better, judging from his behaviour and the expectations his family set up. It’s probably best he becomes your ex, for your own well-being, because these people will only take your love for granted.

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DannkHippo t1_j1qg4y9 wrote

Sorry that Christmas sucked for you, that all sounds like no fun.

Me and my wife were going to host on Christmas Eve, for my BIL and his fiance, and my FIL. which is fine, since we're centrally located between the two of them. My wife also really enjoys hosting.

We were going to have a Christmas brunch, which we had invited my FIL too (my MIL passed away a few years back and we don't like him being alone in the holidays). We were then going to go to my grandfather's house for afternoon drinks with my mom and stepfather.

We then were going to go to my dad's house for dinner with him and my stepmom.

We got COVID last week, so we did none of those... maybe that's something you could use in the future to have a quiet Christmas.. although it doesn't sound like some of his family would believe that's a real thing, by your explanation of them

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gerishnakov t1_j1qx1lh wrote

Has no one else picked up on your BF making sexist comments at your expense? Honestly, reading this through it sounds like you need to take some time to think coldly and rationally about your relationship and decide if it is a healthy one. It's perfectly possible to be in love with someone who is not doing you any favours, but it's also possible to choose better for yourself.

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EggplantIll4927 t1_j1po7q2 wrote

Next year please book yourself a mini getaway. Indulge in room service, walk around a downtown decorated small town, do whatever makes you happy and doesn’t include a bf’s relatives trying to fight you over their right wing politics. Reevaluate that bf too.

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MaximAvs t1_j1qca7e wrote

The Dad did that so you WON’T come back for Christmas again.

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nightmare973 t1_j1qkmno wrote

Damn I misread "bailing" as "balling" and was expecting a different outcome.

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ContemplatingPrison t1_j1qsr2l wrote

Do you have open communication with your boyfriend? Could he not tell you were uncomfortable?

If I was him I would have taken you out of the house for a walk and got you some food. I don't understand how you were that hungry and didn't tell him or that his dad was acting weird and you didn't tell him.

I hate big family Christmas get togethers

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gerishnakov t1_j1r0zzn wrote

I don't understand how her BF didn't pick up on anything. Sounds like dead weight to me and she'd be well shot of him.

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ContemplatingPrison t1_j1r3tid wrote

Yeah, I agree with that I more than likely would have picked up on it but it is also a two way street and they should have communicated their discomfort.

Also, I would completely understand if they left and probably would have went with them.

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andywalker76 t1_j1rdrz9 wrote

OP, sorry for your shitty Christmas. It happens. Obviously, you weren't prepared for your bf's family's Christmas and you could have done with a heads-up.

Well, my previous 2 Christmases were stinkers.

2 years ago, we were all ready to go, did the veg prep, sorted presents all late night on Christmas eve, then at 430 on Christmas morning, I had to take my 1-year-old son to hospital with a viral wheeze. We didn't leave hospital until 630pm and our Christmas was hideously delayed.

Last year, I crashed my car on Christmas eve morning (with the Christmas Dinner in the front boot, which was promptly launched in to a farmers field). Luckily, I survived the crash (if you look at the pictures of the car on my profile, you'll see what I mean by lucky) and the wife managed to get a replacement Dinner. We got through Christmas ok, but then my father died on boxing day. Then we all caught covid 2 days after that.

This year, we've been walking on eggshells and keep getting faithful nods. Our oldest daughter cut her eye on her sisters bed, we've all had colds and I fell off my son's hoverboard on to my wife, injuring us both. It's all superficial, though because we've bounced back in the knowledge that they are small things compared to the last 2 years.

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Top-Development-5585 t1_j1rn1v2 wrote

nta because your boyfriends family couldnt understand that you are hungry. your boyfriend needs to stop acting like a baby because you left.

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Elaine_Benes_Lovr t1_j1sfz98 wrote

Do you really want to be a part of this family?

Your BF made sexist jokes about you to please his family, and you stayed? I would have dumped that ass immediately. Your BF is a manbaby.

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marior012 t1_j1sv08x wrote

Just put a facade and go with the flow and agree with his dad. Maybe if you helped at the kitchen you could've ate something there? You sound weak minded tbh.

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Kenrenkins t1_j1t2xgg wrote

Hey - you put yourself first, and that’s 100% acceptable in that situation. You are allowed to take care of yourself, and if your boyfriend loves you, he will listen to you if you decide to tell him about why you left in the first place. He’ll understand!

You aren’t an asshole - you’re doing just fine. 💕

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miffy495 t1_j1qws18 wrote

My father in law is similar but luckily all of his children are sick of his shit. This year, we set a limit on how much we would take from him and left after two hours. Wouldn't have gone at all except there is a five year old niece involved and she was so excitrd to see the whole family. My own family lives in a different province, so that was it for our celebrations. Ordered Chinese food and had egg nog for the rest of the night.

I'm sorry your bf fell into trying to fit in. Hopefully that's all that it was and isn't something deeper. As it's still early days for you guys, I hope you're able to have a real conversation about it and let him know that you noticed and it hurt. He probably isn't thinking about it at all right now and needs to hear it. You definitely did not fuck up by having boundaries.

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WPBDoc t1_j1rog03 wrote

You sound like a hangry entitled brat. Eat a snickers, stand up for yourself, leave the room - not the house, be gracious but have boundaries. No family is perfect. You’ll face bigger challenges than this someday, however.

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NeedsWit t1_j1r7vq1 wrote

So, you let all the traditional women serve and feed you while you keep looking down on everybody while you benefit from that very thing you claim to despise.

Yup, YFU.

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chefbilly42017 t1_j1qcy6o wrote

Sounds like you’re the common denominator. Your family doesn’t want anything to do with you on the holidays and you probably ooze smugness around your bfs family that you’re an easy target. Eat some food and grow up.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1q5v89 wrote

You kind of are a brat. All families are politically divided. It's really unhealthy that you see this as a problem. His family doesn't like to argue, they simply care enough about each other to share differing opinions. You're also in for a rude awakening if you ever want to throw a get together and then expect guests to work in the kitchen.

You just need to grow up.

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Jimmy9toes1966 t1_j1qc8ky wrote

Wow, sounds like your family is as effed up as his. She had every right to leave and glad that she did. Dump his ass and find someone better.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1qcvt9 wrote

Ahaha, you're funny. My family is fucked up because we all get along even though we have different politics and none of us attack each other for the way we vote? Dude, that's some funny shit.

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Jimmy9toes1966 t1_j1qd9kx wrote

Just because you’re okay with how your family acts like that does not mean it’s okay for his family to treat her like that.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1qean6 wrote

lmao, dude, his family didn't treat her poorly. Talking about politics is only a problem if the people involved are psychopaths who think voting for one politician over another politician makes them the good guy. Normal people discuss politics all the time without getting angry. The problem is her.

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Jimmy9toes1966 t1_j1qehvz wrote

They were obviously baiting her to argue and demean her. Normal families don’t talk politics at Christmas unless they are trying to pick fights. I think you and your family need therapy.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1qexnm wrote

wtf? Dude, you've got issues. Asking her questions isn't baiting her. And my family doesn't fight over politics. We're not delusional idiots who think Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump are our saviors lol. We're normal people who recognize that we need a government. We disagree on what form that government should take, but we do agree that its current form isn't good. I'm sorry that your family is too dysfunctional, and maybe just too dumb, to discuss politics without getting angry over nothing.

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SociallyUnconscious t1_j1qdywn wrote

Guess we found OPs bf.

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XavierHigdon t1_j1qegy6 wrote

She was never my girlfriend. Me and the boys were gonna run a train on her, but she left before the caboose came.

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