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eLonLonRanch t1_ja07b1e wrote

Reply to comment by sometimesifeellikemu in TIL there's a rock formation in Saudi Arabia about 6 meters high and 9 meters wide, split curiously in half and balanced on two small, natural pedestals. The origin of the Al Naslaa rock formation is unknown. by OccludedFug

From what’s still left and hasn’t been destroyed by radical war groups.

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sometimesifeellikemu t1_ja1mk8l wrote

Different country, buddy.

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SomeDumbGamer t1_ja3a6gp wrote

Nah. Unfortunately the saudis have destroyed many archeological sites in their own country. Including ironically in Mecca.

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Otherwise_Appeal7765 t1_ja4cifc wrote

i get what you are saying, but if you are talking about the ottoman fortress in meccah, then i would like to argue that it is not historical.

it would be like removing the outpost of an occupier after ousting them, it is not "destroying heritage", but if you meant something else, i would love to hear more about it

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SomeDumbGamer t1_ja4cux4 wrote

Sadly they have destroyed many pre Islamic and even historical Islamic buildings too

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Otherwise_Appeal7765 t1_ja4d0f2 wrote

and i would love to know more about them to research about them myself.

if you know some of them, can you please tell me its name or a link, i would highly appreciate it, and thank you

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Cobs85 t1_ja08dta wrote

Also that whole colonial thing.

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semiomni t1_ja0cbmj wrote

What colonial thing.

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underthingy t1_ja0kytb wrote

The European one.

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HalflinsLeaf t1_ja0s7y3 wrote

Saudi Arabia has never been under European colonial rule. https://www.worldatlas.com/history/10-countries-which-have-never-been-colonised-by-europeans.html

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underthingy t1_ja0tthk wrote

That doesn't mean that the destabilisation of the surrounding region caused by European colonialism hasn't affected it.

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eggsssssssss t1_ja0vl6r wrote

You don’t really know much about “the surrounding region”, do you? Painting Saudi Arabia as a victim of European colonialism sorta reeks of ignorance. “They’re the brown people, they must be the underclass!”

When I think of colonialism in southwest asia, I’m thinking primarily about Arab, Turkish, and Persian hegemonies. European colonization… I guess if you want to talk about hellenism & rome?

If you want to talk about France, Britain, and Italy in North Africa, that’s a different matter.

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underthingy t1_ja0y0gk wrote

Way to strawman.

I never said anything about race or class, or even called them victims.

Is your argument that European colonialism in the middle east had zero impact on Saudi Arabia?

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2KoolAwYe t1_ja0z9tm wrote

Our argument is that colonialism didn't directly destroy the entirety of Saudian Arabian history

You know, rebutting the original point being made, instead of the one you switched to after realising the mistake but not admitting it

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underthingy t1_ja13xvx wrote

Again strawmanning.

>Our argument is that colonialism didn't directly destroy the entirety of Saudian Arabian history

I never said it did.

>You know, rebutting the original point being made, instead of the one you switched to after realising the mistake but not admitting it

I have checked back through the thread and noone made that claim.

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2KoolAwYe t1_ja14k54 wrote

Look harder, stop doubling down to cope, we all make mistakes

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/11bt3hb/til_theres_a_rock_formation_in_saudi_arabia_about/ja08dta?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

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underthingy t1_ja183d4 wrote

You should learn how to read. That comment doesn't say what you are claiming it does.

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2KoolAwYe t1_ja2rxmh wrote

What does it mean then?

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underthingy t1_ja4oayj wrote

That it contributed in some way to the current situation they are in.

Not that it was the sole cause of the destruction of the entire Saudi history as you are claiming.

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2KoolAwYe t1_ja72vm1 wrote

Yeah no, that's not what they meant and it's pretty obvious.

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SapperBomb t1_ja30p67 wrote

Oof... The literal definition of blind-wokeness.

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