Ocarina3219 t1_ja37af5 wrote
Reply to comment by TFOLLT in TIL there's a rock formation in Saudi Arabia about 6 meters high and 9 meters wide, split curiously in half and balanced on two small, natural pedestals. The origin of the Al Naslaa rock formation is unknown. by OccludedFug
I don’t know if you understand what “100%” and “provable” mean in a scientific conversation.
TFOLLT t1_ja3as8g wrote
What does a scientific conversation mean? A lot of scientific facts are not 100% provable; they're just the most logical, sensible explanation. There's zero real proof about the Big Bang, it's just the most sensible option when discarding a higher intelligence.
As is with Moshe's rock. Science has NO explanation whatsoever how there could be such masses of water erosion in the middle of one of the dryest desserts on earth. The rock area surrounding this surreal boulder shows signs of erosion that only masses of water, coming through with massive force in a relative small amount of time, can make.
There is zero explanation for this. Unless you start taking the bible a little more serious than just a collection of fantasy stories. There's actually tons of signs, not in the Sinai Peninsula, but in Saudi-Arabi, of a huge amount of nomadic, aramic people wandering around. The real mount Sinai - including the unexplainable burned top - has been found, in Saudi-Arabia. Moreso, with the native Saudic inhabitants, it is commonly known. A certain area in Saudi-arabia with the natives is known as 'Moshe's Land'. There's old saudic tales of a huge amount of aramic people(possibly in 7 figures), led by a man known as moshe...
There's wheels of egyptian army weagons on the bottom of the gulf of Akaba. The altar of the golden calf has been found at the foot of Sinai, including ARAMIC inscriptions. And I could go on.
'Science' never found any proof of the Exodus of the aramic people out of Egypt; it's because they've been looking in the wrong places, possibly knowingly, for ages. The aramic people didn't recide in the Sinai-peninsula for 40 years, it was always Midian, which is known to be in Saudi-Arabia.
The only reason Saudi-Arabia doesn't want to make this world-news, is because they don't want to be a pelgrim-place for christians and jews. But among Saudi's themselves it's common knowledge that Moshe wandered through their land, not the Sinai Peninsula.
Is this 100% proof? No. But science has no explanation for these archeological discoveries, and he who is wise enough to know that many folk-lores contain some truth(so, basically any historian), and is willing to be open-minded towards the possibility that the bible might actually be historically accurate, for such a person there's no explanation more logical, more sensible than to see how - at least in the book of Exodus - the bible/Torah is extremely accurate.
Edit: to the haters, go look it up for yourself. It's not hard to find. Dare to open your mind just a little bit.
wdomon t1_ja3fdtk wrote
Isn’t it more likely that people wrote fictional tales about archeological landmarks than those archeological landmarks being proof that a magical sky wizard controls all of us?
TFOLLT t1_ja4qt22 wrote
Where do you see me saying it's proof of a magical skywizard? Didn't even mention the word God. All I'm saying is that the bible/Torah is a hell of a lot more historical than most people give it credit for - even christians themselves many times are too ignorant, too settled in 'its just a belief' to dare question it and search for ratio, logic, sense, and archeological proof.
Imo it wouldn't be more likely that people made up a migration of over a million people. What would be the sense of that. Outside of that, it's questionable if the people then had the same geographical/geological knowledge we have now. But that might be possible, and if that's true, your option might indeed be the truth. But I consider it unlikely that a story that crosses multiple religions, multiple nations and multiple extremely divided cultures about the migration of a nation that big, is made up. Especially considering the altar that is described is literally still standing there, over 4000 years old.
Also, Moshe should be a commonly known philosopher and rulegiver. He's basically the first lawmaker especially considering human rights in the entire human history. People don't want to research him, cause he's biblical. But he's amongst the greatest minds of the earth. You don't need to believe in God, you don't need to be a christian or a jew, to acknowledge Moshe for the pioneer of many, many things we consider normal now. He's also the inventor of quarantine btw.
wdomon t1_ja4zgqu wrote
> What would be the sense of that.
Oh, honey.
wdomon t1_ja563ky wrote
Sorry if you misunderstood this as an argument. I intentionally do not attempt to argue with people that say things like Exodus is “extremely accurate” or believe any of the things you appear to.
TFOLLT t1_ja6vhxh wrote
Ofcourse you aren't. Not even willing to research the facts, why am I even surprised. Why even ask me questions then tho. I do my best to try to explain to you why, only to find I'm talking to an ignorant cynic. You're the embodiment of the closed, tunnel-visioned attitude of modern science. Thx.
wdomon t1_ja7oy2l wrote
I genuinely hope that one day you stop believing in children‘s stories as fact, truly. Religion may have some benefits for some individuals but on the whole is a cancerous scourge on humanity and the darkest stain in our history. While I’m glad to see our species evolving past it, I never considered the pain of evolutionary transitionary periods where (now less then) half of the species still hasn’t caught up. I feel for you and anyone else like you.
Ocarina3219 t1_ja3bp7u wrote
Ooookay lmao
TFOLLT t1_ja4pli7 wrote
Yup, if you don't dare open your mind you indeed won't see.
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