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sometimesifeellikemu t1_j9zrtpe wrote

There were some amazing prehistoric goings on in the Arabian peninsula way back when. It's so e of the most ripe archeological territory left on Earth and we are still learning. Pretty cool.

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DistortoiseLP t1_j9zs6kp wrote

It was some distance behind an anime character when another anime character swung a katana in their direction.

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Tfrom675 t1_j9zs945 wrote

There are some places you just don’t stand.

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johnn48 t1_j9zx0cz wrote

Is that where the first lasers were tested? Ancient astronaut theorists say yes.

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Capable-Sock-7410 t1_j9zywqj wrote

Jewish rabbis believe it’s the rock Moses hit to give water to the Israelites

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BackWaterBill t1_ja03jt4 wrote

It was from my laser cock swinging around all wilford nilford.

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TheCloudFestival t1_ja054t6 wrote

What's not mentioned by the OP is that the split in the rock displays definite signs of being worked by hand as opposed to being a natural formation.

However, given that the rock is sandstone, such a feat would be fairly easy for even the most primitive civilisations. Take a chain or a stout rope, throw it over the top of the rock and then let it settle into a natural divot. Then simply work the chain or rope back and forth from either side like a crosscut saw, gradually working away at the rock. Pouring sand into the groove/notch as it's worked also vastly speeds up the process.

If the rock was discovered with the hollow underneath it between its two balancing points, as seems to be the case, then using a chain or rope to gradually work it in two could have even be done by a single person, throwing the chain/rope over the top, then pulling it back through the hollow, taking each end in each hand, and pulling the chain/rope back and forth.

It's a beautiful and intriguing monolith, but hardly mysterious.

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MarblesAreDelicious t1_ja0aqne wrote

What are the chances that’s the last bit of mountain before it eroded away over the eons?

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temporarycreature t1_ja0jgkr wrote

Neat. Can't for this to show up in all the discovery youtube channels now.

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dark_LUEshi t1_ja0slut wrote

Pretty sure that's a busted Jawa Sandcrawler.

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eggsssssssss t1_ja0vl6r wrote

Replying to underthingy (#2,009,151)

You don’t really know much about “the surrounding region”, do you? Painting Saudi Arabia as a victim of European colonialism sorta reeks of ignorance. “They’re the brown people, they must be the underclass!”

When I think of colonialism in southwest asia, I’m thinking primarily about Arab, Turkish, and Persian hegemonies. European colonization… I guess if you want to talk about hellenism & rome?

If you want to talk about France, Britain, and Italy in North Africa, that’s a different matter.

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underthingy t1_ja0y0gk wrote

Replying to eggsssssssss (#2,009,508)

Way to strawman.

I never said anything about race or class, or even called them victims.

Is your argument that European colonialism in the middle east had zero impact on Saudi Arabia?

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2KoolAwYe t1_ja0z9tm wrote

Replying to underthingy (#2,010,019)

Our argument is that colonialism didn't directly destroy the entirety of Saudian Arabian history

You know, rebutting the original point being made, instead of the one you switched to after realising the mistake but not admitting it

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underthingy t1_ja13xvx wrote

Replying to 2KoolAwYe (#2,010,263)

Again strawmanning.

>Our argument is that colonialism didn't directly destroy the entirety of Saudian Arabian history

I never said it did.

>You know, rebutting the original point being made, instead of the one you switched to after realising the mistake but not admitting it

I have checked back through the thread and noone made that claim.

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Samuel7899 t1_ja17muk wrote

Replying to TheCloudFestival (#2,004,913)

If it were discovered with the hollow underneath, balancing on two points before being cut... It wouldn't necessarily have its mass distributed in such a way that it even could be cut to balance as two separate rocks. That's definitely unlikely, but not impossible. Edges of the sandstone could've been cut down to help this though.

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dirtballmagnet t1_ja1jx22 wrote

Replying to TheCloudFestival (#2,004,913)

You tie a long rope to one camel and toss it over to your guy who ties it to the other camel. The camels wander a little and fight each other for more line, cutting through the rock in a few days. Now others do it and the bottom gets hollowed out. Then, as the columns of support get dangerously narrow, they start packing them with more rocks or other things to keep it from cutting through, while still using it as an animal parking lot.

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jnp01 t1_ja1ux05 wrote

I've watched enough history channel to know exactly what made this

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LittleBitCrunchy t1_ja1wrgl wrote

A meteorite that produced the pedestals as sediment when the ground beneath it eroded?

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plumbgray222 t1_ja25rdx wrote

I would hazard a guess it been eroded away over millions of years by the wind ?

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DisillusionedBook t1_ja267yf wrote

Natural formation, rock probably had a seam or crack that split due to temperature variations and subsequent weathering. It's cool but nothing to suspect anything other than natural.

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hassh t1_ja2hexm wrote

Aw man, they have all the best rocks

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Yhaqtera t1_ja2msyp wrote

Mohammad's training grounds?

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Czyzx t1_ja2qag7 wrote

Bored teenagers

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Bikrdude t1_ja36npd wrote

Replying to TFOLLT (#2,023,305)

Nothing about it is any evidence for this. So what is provable about food magically falling from the sky in the area where Israelites camped - for forty years?

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TFOLLT t1_ja3as8g wrote

Replying to Ocarina3219 (#2,024,384)

What does a scientific conversation mean? A lot of scientific facts are not 100% provable; they're just the most logical, sensible explanation. There's zero real proof about the Big Bang, it's just the most sensible option when discarding a higher intelligence.

As is with Moshe's rock. Science has NO explanation whatsoever how there could be such masses of water erosion in the middle of one of the dryest desserts on earth. The rock area surrounding this surreal boulder shows signs of erosion that only masses of water, coming through with massive force in a relative small amount of time, can make.

There is zero explanation for this. Unless you start taking the bible a little more serious than just a collection of fantasy stories. There's actually tons of signs, not in the Sinai Peninsula, but in Saudi-Arabi, of a huge amount of nomadic, aramic people wandering around. The real mount Sinai - including the unexplainable burned top - has been found, in Saudi-Arabia. Moreso, with the native Saudic inhabitants, it is commonly known. A certain area in Saudi-arabia with the natives is known as 'Moshe's Land'. There's old saudic tales of a huge amount of aramic people(possibly in 7 figures), led by a man known as moshe...

There's wheels of egyptian army weagons on the bottom of the gulf of Akaba. The altar of the golden calf has been found at the foot of Sinai, including ARAMIC inscriptions. And I could go on.

'Science' never found any proof of the Exodus of the aramic people out of Egypt; it's because they've been looking in the wrong places, possibly knowingly, for ages. The aramic people didn't recide in the Sinai-peninsula for 40 years, it was always Midian, which is known to be in Saudi-Arabia.

The only reason Saudi-Arabia doesn't want to make this world-news, is because they don't want to be a pelgrim-place for christians and jews. But among Saudi's themselves it's common knowledge that Moshe wandered through their land, not the Sinai Peninsula.

Is this 100% proof? No. But science has no explanation for these archeological discoveries, and he who is wise enough to know that many folk-lores contain some truth(so, basically any historian), and is willing to be open-minded towards the possibility that the bible might actually be historically accurate, for such a person there's no explanation more logical, more sensible than to see how - at least in the book of Exodus - the bible/Torah is extremely accurate.

Edit: to the haters, go look it up for yourself. It's not hard to find. Dare to open your mind just a little bit.

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wdomon t1_ja3fdtk wrote

Replying to TFOLLT (#2,025,102)

Isn’t it more likely that people wrote fictional tales about archeological landmarks than those archeological landmarks being proof that a magical sky wizard controls all of us?

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WWDubz t1_ja3fkzi wrote

I’m surprised they haven’t destroyed it like most of their archeological finds because god

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MrBrutok t1_ja3mjpf wrote

Replying to jnp01 (#2,024,425)

Same thing. We all know Hilter was a sleeper agent sent from Alpha Centauri who went against his orders thinking he could take over earth with his superior technology.

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Halas1920 t1_ja3v5up wrote

Set of dice for our cosmic overlords.

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lagginglukas t1_ja3y7ex wrote

Replying to TheCloudFestival (#2,004,913)

Hands? Or tools? It’s still very intriguing since rope is believed to be created sometime a bit less than 5,000 years a go. If it’s believed to be not nearly that old then it’s still very odd to know that someone tried to work with this size of blocks and for what purpose?

I haven’t seen limestone being cut by saws or chains, it if that’s an easier method wouldn’t it bear very visible line cuts on both facing surfaces?

In my opinion its certainly man made. Seeing many other megalithic structures throughout the world I can confidently say that we most likely have no idea how they cut and moves giant stones into place. This seems to be a similar case seeing how well the cut is made pulling a rope back and forth will not provide a straight cut

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DocCaliban t1_ja46exs wrote

Given the opportunity, I'm sure the Taliban would happily destroy it.

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Otherwise_Appeal7765 t1_ja4cifc wrote

Replying to SomeDumbGamer (#2,024,957)

i get what you are saying, but if you are talking about the ottoman fortress in meccah, then i would like to argue that it is not historical.

it would be like removing the outpost of an occupier after ousting them, it is not "destroying heritage", but if you meant something else, i would love to hear more about it

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TFOLLT t1_ja4qt22 wrote

Replying to wdomon (#2,025,971)

Where do you see me saying it's proof of a magical skywizard? Didn't even mention the word God. All I'm saying is that the bible/Torah is a hell of a lot more historical than most people give it credit for - even christians themselves many times are too ignorant, too settled in 'its just a belief' to dare question it and search for ratio, logic, sense, and archeological proof.

Imo it wouldn't be more likely that people made up a migration of over a million people. What would be the sense of that. Outside of that, it's questionable if the people then had the same geographical/geological knowledge we have now. But that might be possible, and if that's true, your option might indeed be the truth. But I consider it unlikely that a story that crosses multiple religions, multiple nations and multiple extremely divided cultures about the migration of a nation that big, is made up. Especially considering the altar that is described is literally still standing there, over 4000 years old.

Also, Moshe should be a commonly known philosopher and rulegiver. He's basically the first lawmaker especially considering human rights in the entire human history. People don't want to research him, cause he's biblical. But he's amongst the greatest minds of the earth. You don't need to believe in God, you don't need to be a christian or a jew, to acknowledge Moshe for the pioneer of many, many things we consider normal now. He's also the inventor of quarantine btw.

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showard01 t1_ja545c3 wrote

Looks like Wile E Coyote ordered a giant buzzsaw

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wdomon t1_ja563ky wrote

Replying to TFOLLT (#2,037,178)

Sorry if you misunderstood this as an argument. I intentionally do not attempt to argue with people that say things like Exodus is “extremely accurate” or believe any of the things you appear to.

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amaninseattle t1_ja61t56 wrote

Replying to LuangPrabangisinLaos (#2,041,425)

The point being the landmass that is now Arabia was nowhere near where it is now so it is not as if a glacier dropped the rock where it now is—it was not an Arabian glacier per se—it was a glacier on the landmass that eventually became Arabia

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TFOLLT t1_ja6vhxh wrote

Replying to wdomon (#2,037,420)

Ofcourse you aren't. Not even willing to research the facts, why am I even surprised. Why even ask me questions then tho. I do my best to try to explain to you why, only to find I'm talking to an ignorant cynic. You're the embodiment of the closed, tunnel-visioned attitude of modern science. Thx.

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wdomon t1_ja7oy2l wrote

Replying to TFOLLT (#2,049,355)

I genuinely hope that one day you stop believing in children‘s stories as fact, truly. Religion may have some benefits for some individuals but on the whole is a cancerous scourge on humanity and the darkest stain in our history. While I’m glad to see our species evolving past it, I never considered the pain of evolutionary transitionary periods where (now less then) half of the species still hasn’t caught up. I feel for you and anyone else like you.

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