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jamescookenotthatone OP t1_j9etovt wrote

Something I found amusing.

>Size of stones was central to the McAdam's road building theory. The lower 8 in (20 cm) road thickness was restricted to stones no larger than 3 inches (7.5 cm). The upper 2-inch-thick (5 cm) layer of stones was limited to stones 2 centimetres (3⁄4 in) in diameter; these were checked by supervisors who carried scales. A workman could check the stone size himself by seeing if the stone would fit into his mouth. The importance of the 2 cm stone size was that the stones needed to be much smaller than the 4 inches (10 cm) width of the iron carriage wheels that travelled on the road.[5]

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Magusreaver t1_j9fpouv wrote

my mouth just dried out thinking about that.

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lvl2bard t1_j9g1w3z wrote

They probably didn’t have to check every rock. Maybe every third rock?

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SchtivanTheTrbl t1_j9g3rxw wrote

Just need to check one, then pocket that rock and use it as a template. Bigger than mouth rock? Goes in that pile. Smaller than mouth rock? The other pile over there.

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VeGr-FXVG t1_j9g7zyi wrote

Surely they had to recalibrate the mouth rock occasionally, to see if it still is up to spec?

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Xx420PAWGhunter69xX t1_j9g9apm wrote

So like the lightbulb challenge but the extra downside of scraping your teeth and not being able to crush it?

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dudewiththebling t1_j9gjk74 wrote

I guess those workers had a higher bodily mineral content than the average person

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jeepster2982 t1_j9g1d7d wrote

And yet every old person I’ve encountered who used the word macadam used it in reference to tarmac.

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mrsc1880 t1_j9ezc5k wrote

>Because of the historic use of macadam as a road surface, roads in some parts of the United States (such as parts of Pennsylvania) are often referred to as macadam, even though they might be made of asphalt or concrete. Similarly, the term "tarmac" is sometimes colloquially applied to asphalt roads or aircraft runways.[22]

I've always referred to blacktop or asphalt as macadam. I didn't realize this was just a local thing (Pennsylvania).

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i_want_my_corncob_tv t1_j9fczop wrote

do you pronounce it mack-uh-dam or m'caddum?

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der_innkeeper t1_j9fhbud wrote

mack-uh-dam

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SlyFlourishXDA t1_j9fkxsk wrote

I grew up on the border of Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia and we pronounce it "mack-adam."

So interesting how words are pronounced differently even within the tristate area.

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jimmmymmmij t1_j9hp4gc wrote

I suspect Phineas and Ferb have something to do with this..

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adfthgchjg t1_j9fngci wrote

m’caddum. Googled “pronounce macadam” and it said“muh CA dum” (emphasis is on the middle syllable). The google answer page also speaks it out loud, to remove any possible confusion.

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mrsc1880 t1_j9fq4hk wrote

People around here pronounce it like mu-CAD-um.

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Riegel_Haribo t1_j9eznk7 wrote

Macadam is now used for the buildup of support below the surfacing.

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confusingbrownstate t1_j9fanjj wrote

From central Pennsylvania. I remember my elementary school always calling the paved section of the playground macadam. But I've never heard anyone use the word macadam since then.

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MustardFacedSavior t1_j9fmq4o wrote

Huh. I grew up in PA and just always that that's what the blacktop roads were called. Neat.

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mrsc1880 t1_j9fqf94 wrote

I'm from eastern PA and my husband was from the Pittsburgh area. He didn't know the word. I thought it was just him. I had no idea it was regional.

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Turious t1_j9g7xdm wrote

Pittsburgh region native here, checking in. I've never heard the word before.

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matt_1060 t1_j9hxkof wrote

I’ve lived in Pittsburgh a very, very long time. Never heard the word either.

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madery t1_j9gj0pv wrote

In Belgium we do the same. The original roads were asphalted over but still referred to as macadam

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EZ4_U_2SAY t1_j9hfhxx wrote

I’m in central PA, no idea that was a local thing.

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OldLevermonkey t1_j9f4e2s wrote

Sealed surface roads were campaigned for by the Cycling Touring Club (now Cycling UK). Sealed surface roads were necessary because the few cars of the day were destroying Macadamised surfaces and making them a misery for all other roadusers. They also campaigned for major roads to be maintained by central government funds.

The CTC originally banned bicycle riders on the grounds that bicycles were working class and a gentleman rode a tricycle (there was also probably something about no respectable woman would ever be found with an instrument of pleasure between her legs).

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2KilAMoknbrd t1_j9f2ztr wrote

I'm always fascinated when a word falls into place. Never even correlated them two . Good one OP .

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atomfullerene t1_j9fklgs wrote

I always wondered if this word had any relationship to macadamia nuts...turns out they are both named after different people with a last name of McAdam/MacAdam

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expos1225 t1_j9feqza wrote

Macadamized roads, especially in Maryland and Pennsylvania, really helped to facilitate fast troop/supply movement during the Civil War. Although I’ve read the road surface wasn’t comfortable on soldiers feet on long marches

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GrapeGel t1_j9ftym5 wrote

Indians still use them in rural areas, it's commonly known as kaccha rasta aka raw roads. They are quite reliable.. Water bound macadam roads

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Thatsaclevername t1_j9gofgw wrote

Most roads are still built this way, your top level of asphalt pavement is only a few inches thick and then will have some manufactured gravel under that to maintain stability. That's where most of your strength comes from, the gravel under the pavement. They're also "crowned", as the OP discussed, to allow drainage of water.

Crushed rock and the science behind it, which is also the science of roadways and pavement, is super neat and one of those "I didn't know it was that complicated" things that people use day to day.

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AnxietyIsEnergy t1_j9euhyx wrote

If you like his roads then you should try his nuts!

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Herbstrabe t1_j9g2vwl wrote

We in Germany build our forest roads (only for forestry related driving) in this way.

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northeaster17 t1_j9npb56 wrote

Simon Winchester's book, " The Men Who United the State" gets into the early American roads. No one knew of those ancient roads. The had to learn from scratch.

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Future_Green_7222 t1_j9fonjs wrote

Roads will last for centuries without maintenance

... unless we use cars on them

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dogwoodcat t1_j9k0fo5 wrote

In places that don't see frost they can last indefinitely. Copenhagen started heating sidewalks about 20 years ago and the first ones they laid down in the trial still look perfect.

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der_innkeeper t1_j9fhvmg wrote

1500 years after Rome fell we figured out this whole "roads" thing, again.

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st3akkn1fe t1_j9ets01 wrote

Tarmac is a company. The term is a macadamising material/surface.

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Tolanator t1_j9euixh wrote

They’re talking about this tarmac.

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st3akkn1fe t1_j9ev5ew wrote

Yeah I know. They meant tarmacadam which is different to tarmac

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Tolanator t1_j9evujc wrote

Tarmac is short for tarmacadam.

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st3akkn1fe t1_j9ew9r2 wrote

Yes, which is probably why they called their company it.

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Tolanator t1_j9ewrjr wrote

Aye but it’s more commonly known as being the short form of tarmacadam and used colloquially to refer to any type of blacktop road.

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st3akkn1fe t1_j9ex6e1 wrote

Yeah but that's wrong isn't it? Like calling all vacuum cleaners a hoover when hoover is the brand.

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Tolanator t1_j9eykfj wrote

Nope, neither are wrong, but for different reasons. With hoover, the brand became so dominant at one time that it's name was synonymous with the product. With tarmac, historically calling the road surface tarmac was correct and the name stuck, even though the process changed. That happens a lot with the English language, the name stays even if circumstances change. Another example is movie trailers, they were so-called because they were previews of coming attractions that were shown at the end of a film, or in other words they would "trail" a film. The name stuck even though today they are shown before a movie or even screened independently. Words endure even when meanings change.

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Psycko_90 t1_j9f32j6 wrote

Is using the term PC instead of Personal Computer wrong?

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Charlielx t1_j9ghtn6 wrote

Abbreviation is not the same as genericization

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