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jointheredditarmy t1_jd8056t wrote

My biggest fear is that this means China is actually ahead, not behind, when it comes to government development. Maybe as population density increases governments gravitate towards more autocratic. Certainly seems to be going that way in the US and we’re only a 5th of china’s population.

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[deleted] t1_jd9m6jg wrote

India has been the second most populous country in the world and has been a democracy since independence.

Autocracy can happen anywhere and to any society regardless of population.

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blunt_analysis t1_jdaf1zj wrote

I have my theories around this - but also worth remembering that early governments didn't really understand modern economics or a knowledge economy - the most recentl iteration of Chinese government is only a few decades old and even they have been regressing in terms of institutions with nothing positive to show for it.

The Deng Xiaoping -> Hu Jintao period had a lot more achievements then the period prior or after and at that time the CCP was relatively more open and more rules-based rather than personality based.

In the long arc - I think successful governments needs meritocracy, which has both a technocratic and a democratic component. The technocratic component is needed to make sure things are executed well and complex problems are well understood - and the democratic component is needed so that the technocrats don't become divorced from reality and turn into a kleptocratic elite that starts acting against the benefit of the majority.

This doesn't necessarily mean a 1-man-1-vote standard democratic system - but you do need a government that is responsive to the public in some form. In Singapore for e.g. you can't really call it a democracy but the state is quite responsive to public issues. On the other hand you can have a kind of democracy where you don't really have a lot of competence which will lead to people choosing idiotic self destructive policies. Most successful advancing countries have found some balance between these two.

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