Daniel_The_Thinker t1_jecuy7w wrote on March 31, 2023 at 2:08 AM

Reply to comment by wallabee_kingpin_ in TIL in the 1920s, Coco Chanel accidentally got a tan, and helped inspire the trend of sunbathing. Soon "sunlight therapy" was prescribed for almost every ailment from fatigue to tuberculosis. Before this, tanned skin was associated with the lower classes who work outside, and fair skin was revered. by Pfeffer_Prinz

I know, that's why I put race in quotations. There are plenty of ethnic groups in Europe that can be visually told apart, no one considers them different races.

WholeSilent8317 t1_jed31vp wrote on March 31, 2023 at 3:15 AM

actually i seem to recall a certain someone talking about the aryan race

Daniel_The_Thinker t1_jed8e07 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 4:03 AM

Which doesn't really exist as he imagined it at all.

Dude it's literally Hitler, no one got into that shit as much as him and his ilk. The average European did not give it the much thought.

Snizl t1_jedooqw wrote on March 31, 2023 at 7:13 AM

You are making an argument that discriminating based on ethnicity instead of race isnt racism than proceed to say that races dont exist, while also ignoring the fact that literally all of europe has hated jews pretty much since they existed until the end of ww2, and anti semitism was very fashionable during that era anywhere in europe...

What exactly is your point even?

Daniel_The_Thinker t1_jeec6j9 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:14 PM

Race is not a meaningful category in a scientific sense but it certainly exists in people's minds as its own category that comes with its own set of prejudices.

You can have an abused ethnic group within a majority race, case in point, Jews suffer from anti semitism but they would've been allowed to drink from white only water fountains because they were perceived as white.

It's really not that complicated, I don't understand your confusion to be honest.

Snizl t1_jeei7f4 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 1:04 PM

Im not sure if there ever were "white only" water fountains in europe. Just because one ethnic group is discriminated against less than another one, doesnt mean one is considered a "race" and the other an "ethnicity". You are just coming up with random definitions on the spot to suit your narrative and i am quite confused about what that narrative is even supposed to be, especially since you use race and ethnicity interchangeably in other comments and suddenly make a distinction here.

Daniel_The_Thinker t1_jeey21o wrote on March 31, 2023 at 2:57 PM

At no point did I ever use race and ethnicity interchangeably. And the water fountain is called an example. Another example, after the Spanish reconquest, Jews and Arabs were exiled from Spain. Jews were allowed to stay if they converted to Christianity, but Arabs were not allowed regardless of their religion.

Ive been clear enough, you're being willfully ignorant if you can't understand these simple concepts.