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lucamila5 OP t1_jczi0x9 wrote

The dinosaur Trix was named after the former Queen of the Netherlands, Beatrix.


PsychedelicHobbit t1_jczzwwy wrote

Did she have really short arms?


Brilliant_Jewel1924 t1_jd06jr0 wrote

She’s still alive.


brettmjohnson t1_jd1pjeu wrote

Does she let kids view the skeleton? Because, I hear "Trix are for kids".


USAIsAUcountry t1_jcznewo wrote

I'm just happy to see that "the powers that be" didn't manage to completely fuck the landowner out of a payday, despite what appears to have been a lengthy and genuine effort at doing exactly that. The fuck's wrong with people...


codyt321 t1_jczs0ol wrote

Did we read the same thing? The other party in the suit were the former landowners who still had the mineral rights. Not a company and not the state trying to claim ownership.

Just kind of seems like a normal court case. Complicated and nuanced the more you look into it.


USAIsAUcountry t1_jczszlo wrote

That's why I used the quotation marks. I just couldn't find a better term for it and was too lazy to figure it out. I just meant that anyone with a sliver of power to make a claim suddenly crawling out of the woodworks to do some Avatar levels of Lawbending. Vultures would perhaps have been a better term for it.


codyt321 t1_jcztb1m wrote

You're telling me you wouldn't? If you had the rights to what was in the ground, and what they dug up out of the ground was worth millions of dollars. You would just walk away?


USAIsAUcountry t1_jczzat0 wrote

I would explore what is intended to fall under the mineral rights, yes. If I discovered I had a legitimate claim then yes, I would go to court. What I wouldn't do is go to court several times over 5 years after being shut down arguing over semantics to try squeeze myself in there.


RequiemForSM t1_jd0113t wrote

In fairness they had a pretty solid claim. Surprised they weren’t at least awarded something.


USAIsAUcountry t1_jd045pp wrote

If there was no established criteria for what is considered a mineral under the mineral rights other than a loose definition of the word then I guess that's not the fault of the claimant. Perhaps I judged them too harshly.


RamboGoesMeow t1_jd08i0g wrote

I mean, fossils are just minerals in the shape of ancient bones. Unless they had rights to specific minerals/metals, it would only seem fair that they have a claim to part, if not all, of it IMO. Still, this was an awesome find regardless.


USAIsAUcountry t1_jd0gc77 wrote

A line should be drawn somewhere, or not at all. Seems senseless to have it open to interpretation. Should it just be anything containing a mineral regardless of the origin then? We can argue that a lot of things are minerals that we wouldn't normally consider minerals, gravel, ice, snail shells or whatever you want really.

Perhaps it would be better if it was just mining rights that apply to anything of significant value that is unearthed from the ground. That's what people are out after anyway.


its_not_you_its_ye t1_jd0i0wt wrote

> A line should be drawn somewhere, or not at all.

Hard to disagree; I think these are the only options.


USAIsAUcountry t1_jd0ksyo wrote

There's also a third option where you try to adhere to a definition but lack a consensus and then end up in a 5 year dispute trying to establish whether a fossil is a mineral or not.


codyt321 t1_jd0dy1e wrote

So you're saying if you thought you had a good case, so good that you thought it was worth going to court, and then you lost then you would forgo your right to appeal?


USAIsAUcountry t1_jd0m0s0 wrote

I don't know what I would do anymore. The more I read about mineral rights and what is and isn't a mineral both technically and basically the muddier it gets. At this point I'm not sure if I even understand what a mineral is anymore or if everything is just arbitrarily a mineral depending on how cold it is outside that day.

I don't think I would have fortitude to even bother to be honest.


odaeyss t1_jd0qgld wrote

Mineral rights are dumb. Just another dumb rule for calvinball we've invented to make everyone's lives more difficult.


AnarkittenSurprise t1_jd3dj3h wrote

Fossils are objectively minerals though. This wasn't an unreasonable lawsuit at all.


USAIsAUcountry t1_jd3lmzr wrote

They are, but they have also once been a living creature and are still retaining the structure of the living form. It's not what is ordinarily considered a mineral in this context and they are not valued according to their mineral contents or being sold for their mineral contents which is what the mineral rights are meant to protect.

I have since that comment changed my opinion that they were wrong in pursuing this as relentlessly as they did. So I agree that it wasn't unreasonable. It's just not as straight forward as considering it just a mineral. It's a unique grey area.


Dragmire800 t1_jd2athq wrote

Imo the state should be able to seize things of significant historical value and only pay out for the loss of projected income over losing access to the land during the dig, as well as any restorative costs.


jak0v92 t1_jd0ro8w wrote

"As it was late in the season, it was decided to postpone the excavation (of the t-tex) until the next Spring. In April and May 2013, the site was thoroughly excavated, but apart from some foot bones, a skeleton proved to be absent. However, five Triceratops skeletons were present elsewhere on the farm land and procured by the museum for exhibition".

This farmer was living on top of fucking 6 dinosaurs all this time, this is a fucking amazing discovery!


Eponarose t1_jczyzod wrote

Wait! I thought "Sue" in Chicago was the most complete....or is she the biggest?


TechPlasma t1_jd06gqs wrote

> Sue[a] is the nickname given to FMNH PR 2081, which is one of the largest,[b] most extensive, and best preserved Tyrannosaurus rex specimens ever found, at over 90 percent recovered by bulk.

> This Tyrannosaurus [Trix], over thirty years old – the oldest known Tyrannosaurus specimen – lived about 67 million years ago. It is considered to be the third most complete Tyrannosaurus found, with between 75% to 80% of its bone volume recovered.

So Sue is still the Most complete. Though it seems Trix is older.


RunLikeYouMean_it t1_jd07kw1 wrote

The title say “on of the most complete” Sue is the most complete and also the largest T-Rex.


[deleted] t1_jd01kwc wrote

Biggest, but formerly most complete

Of a trex anyway


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emmacoudertzk t1_jczgowg wrote

Yep, Trix definitely has a bone to pick with other incomplete dino skeletons.


ascii122 t1_jd0tps4 wrote

>This Tyrannosaurus, over thirty years old – the oldest known Tyrannosaurus specimen

Yeah I guess that is technically true .. it's well over 30


Swsean1234_6 t1_jd18hov wrote

Apparently the farmer had to battle it out in court to keep the $5M and then died in a 4-wheeler accident a few months after it was settled. Sounds like there could be more to this story. Or just terrible luck


THC_Golem t1_jd3f24a wrote

I mean 4 wheelers are death machines. Someone got some money, bought a fancy new toy, and did not take proper safety precautions. Also being so far from the city increases your mortality chances. 4 wheelers go fast but that does not mean you should go fast on one or turn too sharply.


AttackOfTheThumbs t1_jd0du70 wrote

Can I just publicly state here that wikipedia's new look is shit. That's all I want to say. It's awful. Please use my screen real estate, I have muhc


Nneliss t1_jd2dmvr wrote

Visited it a couple weeks ago, incredibly impressive to see. You can see a little hole close to its nose, of which a description mentioned it was caused by a bone inflammation. Crazy to see that’s still visible after 65 million years.


Danhuangmao t1_jd3eqpz wrote

Now when the local Native American tribes kick out the white oppressors and reclaim rule of Montana for themselves, I suppose they'll claim this sale wasn't valid and demand the dinosaur back from the Dutch museum.

- This comment brought to you by the British Museum


BOSS-3000 t1_jd00nqy wrote

Nice to hear a farmer finally got paid well.


THC_Golem t1_jd3f7a8 wrote

He died a couple months after the settlement in a four wheeler accident


pancrudo t1_jd0adf5 wrote

US farmer, not the dutch ones protesting


Reinardd t1_jd2ssiz wrote

Well he deserved it, unlike the Dutch ones.


TheRageDragon t1_jd107ja wrote

5 mill? That's it, I'm gettin' me shovel.


cote112 t1_jd12lwz wrote

Has anyone put the back legs and hips together differently so that it stood and moved like a kangaroo?

Imagine a hopping T-Rex going like 35mph.


revyn t1_jd1833l wrote



FishAndRiceKeks t1_jd1vcfp wrote

You could buy a full T-rex for only $5M? I thought Nicholas Cage bought the skull of one for more than that. I'm surprised there aren't more rich celebrities with dinosaur skeletons.


nra4ever4321 t1_jd0roak wrote

According to that article 60% of all t-rex specimens were found in Montana. Wonder why


Dr-Retz t1_jd0dslo wrote

God bless that farmer.Made more money off something buried on the property than he would’ve made in a lifetime.