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greatgildersleeve t1_jeeynm3 wrote

Psst. The war is over. You don't have to do that anymore.

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jacobspartan1992 t1_jefkzn6 wrote

Sometimes war rations can actually turn out quite nice.

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res30stupid t1_jeg06xx wrote

Right.

The Italians couldn't get their hands on enough chocolate during World War II so they bulked it out with hazelnuts. A couple changes to the recipe two decades later and we have Nutella.

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colonelsmoothie t1_jef7wr7 wrote

Cafe Du Monde + condensed milk = Vietnamese-American starter pack

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backcountrydrifter t1_jegebyz wrote

I’ll die on the hill of claiming that Vietnamese and Cambodians have coffee dialed.

From the flavor to the coffee shop experience. In a just world, every neighborhood on earth will have a Vietnamese run coffee shop with macarons and the most attentive polite wait staff in the world. It’s an art to them and it should be rewarded.

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theflyingpupusa t1_jefxqjs wrote

Wait talk to me what do I need to do?

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colonelsmoothie t1_jeg5dec wrote

I believe the traditional way is you get a Vietnamese coffee filter. Viet people like the Cafe Du Monde brand and sweetened condensed milk because it closely replicates what they had from VN. All the stuff is easily available online these days (like Amazon) and there are now multiple brands to choose from.

It takes a long time but the coffee is really strong. If you just want to try it, any Vietnamese coffee shop or pho restaurant will have it. They usually give you the cup with the filter on top and you wait for it to finish, so you can check the coffee/condensed milk ratio that way and mess around with the filter to see how it works.

I usually just use a regular cone filter on weekdays because I'm short on time.

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ksdkjlf t1_jegmv22 wrote

If you live in a city with a sizeable Asian community there's a reasonable chance you can get actual Vietnamese coffee these days, usually cheaper than any of the New Orleans chickory blends. (Trung Nguyen, the leading Viet brand, seems to've greatly expanded their availability in the US in the past decade or so.) And a Vietnamese coffee filter is usually only 3 or 4 bucks. Cafe du Monde is often available at regular American grocery stores, but at a pretty steep markup for what it is.

The key is that Vietnamese coffee generally isn't Arabica coffee, the smooth variety most common in American coffee these days; it simply doesn't grow well in Vietnam. It's mostly Robusta, which is rather bitter, along with other 'inferior' varieties. This, combined with the long extraction of a traditional Vietnamese drip filter, leads to a very strong, bitter brew that stands up well to the cloying sweetness of the sweetened condensed milk. Chickory provides that same bitterness, which is why New Orleans coffee is often basically half coffee and half milk (and usually with some sugar too). If you try to make either New Orleans or Vietnamese coffee with an Arabica, even a strong, dark roast, it just doesn't have the bitterness you need to make it taste right.

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grease-beef-patty t1_jef55mm wrote

maybe I had a bad batch, but chicory coffee tasted like pencil shavings to me. Hated it.

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VersatileFaerie t1_jefo3qw wrote

From what I have heard from people who like it, you never want to drink it plain. It needs milk or a creamer to balance out the taste. So if you enjoy your coffee with put any additions or with very little sugar or creamer, you will not find a way to enjoy chicory coffee. I have heard dandelion coffee is closer to the taste of coffee without having any actual coffee in it. The problem is that it is hard to find in most places and you would have to grow them yourself since so many people use chemicals on their lawns. I've thought about growing them in a pot since I rent, but my cats are rude and eat any plant I try to grow, so I have given up until I have more space.

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typhoidtimmy t1_jefptnl wrote

Chicory drinker here on occasion

Absolutely. Needs milk or something to cut the bite. And that bite is damn big.

Edit: Now I want to try it with condensed milk. That sounds delicious.

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Jameszhang73 t1_jeftdis wrote

Try it at any Vietnamese restaurant. Most use Cafe du Monde coffee grounds with condensed milk

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bolanrox t1_jefwej1 wrote

i've had Thai iced coffee and tea (the tea is way better imo) plenty. Assuming its similar?

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Jameszhang73 t1_jeg1bff wrote

I'm not as familiar with Thai coffee but it does look similar from what I can see. Viet coffee is less spiced and more sweet.

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ksdkjlf t1_jegnwkv wrote

Thai coffee is really interesting: it's usually not just coffee. The most common brand I see — this one — is actually only 50% coffee, along with roasted corn and soy. Other common ingredients are sesame, cardamom, and rice. So, similar to Viet coffee in that it's sort of filled out with lesser ingredients, but the flavor profile of Thai coffee is pretty unique

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Music_City_Madman t1_jefnbfe wrote

I tried it twice now and I just can’t enjoy it as much as coffee. You can definitely tell the difference unless you’re used to it.

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tonyisadork t1_jefxnb7 wrote

No, you're right. It's gross. Helps ya poop, though!

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lorddoa t1_jeg1oix wrote

Back in the early 2000s, Texas prisons had two types of coffee. Foldger's instant for like $4.00 a can and a brand of Chicory I can't remember for $1.00. I only made the mistake of getting chicory once.

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Davethephotoguy t1_jeg7nm7 wrote

I received chicory as a gift. You’re not wrong, it tastes like ass.

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MN8616 t1_jegvpw7 wrote

Back in the day went to NO on business and host took me for "coffee". Definitely an acquired taste. Definitely needs milk to "soften" it.

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InsaneBrew t1_jefaql3 wrote

It MUST be mixed with milk or some kind of creamer.

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT drink it black!

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PerspectiveLeather13 t1_jefni3d wrote

Ah that explains that line from Cold Mountain then

“And it’s real coffee, not just chicory and dirt!”

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bolanrox t1_jefqnh5 wrote

Was a bit in the Alt SciFi / Fiction Turtledove book Guns for the South.

time travelers upon meeting Gen Lee for the first time offer him folgers instant coffee. Lee says its not as good as the real thing but much better than the Chicory blend.

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r1ch999999 t1_jeezq75 wrote

If you really, really, want to poop mix your coffee with chicory.

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typhoidtimmy t1_jefq1yv wrote

Heheh…natures turbo lax. It will clean you out whether you like it or not.

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Mikey637 t1_jegtqnv wrote

Some high percentage of people are sensitive to chicory, I personally can’t drink it without getting spaced out, hot and agitated and it raises the average persons gut acidity, old job had cheap coffee for staff and I got tested for IBS and other issues until we worked it out.

If anyone here tends to have upset stomachs often with burning check your coffee, it may be cheap and you might be sensitive, it wrecked havoc on my digestive system for close to a year.

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wapniacl t1_jeftcvp wrote

Grew up on it. Love it. Slightly sweet and makes the coffee full-bodied.

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spastical-mackerel t1_jefzgpk wrote

“The past isn’t dead, it isn’t even past” - Faulkner

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CodModQuad t1_jefodv7 wrote

It's horrid, the war is over, stop.

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Fred011235 t1_jefnboz wrote

and some of it is actually pretty good.

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Nazamroth t1_jeg3ayp wrote

Most iconic foods start out as a "ok, what do we have on hand and what can we make from it?" thing. Often as a staple food for the masses.

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mortalcrawad66 t1_jegj4lg wrote

I remember about Napoleon doing something similar

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Dlemor t1_jegupnc wrote

Chicory is an acquired taste in France from Ww2 . Less nowadays, but people used to add some to the coffee filter

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DarkSatelite t1_jefpesl wrote

Tried it one time and immediately tossed the whole bag of coffee out.

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spicy45 t1_jefrsz2 wrote

I tried it one time. Absolutely awful.

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Selfpropelledfapping t1_jeftgev wrote

I came here looking for brand reccomendations because I love it, but can only find Caf-Lib (chicory and roasted malt blend). It turns out I'm the weird one; TIL

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Barbarella_ella t1_jefuv8m wrote

My office used to mix regular coffee with chicory, then brew.

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