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Da_Brootalz t1_je2xtr4 wrote

Nowadays they'd just give themselves a raise and take a vacation

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papa1775 t1_je2zw8p wrote

All of them or just those in the Meterology Office?

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1clovett t1_je2zwif wrote

I was thinking this had to be a long time ago. Happened during the Civil War.

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AnchorKlanker t1_je34k6z wrote

Really? That must have been a few years back.

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RingGiver t1_je3pxjm wrote

That should be the norm for any sort of government job.

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squats_and_sugars t1_je4ri1f wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,443,113)

I'd add on that calling what they did to you, it's kind of bullshit to call it a "furlough" because you worked the whole time. That's just a paycut. I've had legit furloughs in work when there wasn't enough production work to pay the bills so we didn't work for 2 weeks, didn't get paid for two weeks (most of us picked up a temp job during that time).

For the federal government, it's complex. If you're "essential" you work, and eventually get paid, when the shutdown is over. If you're not marked essential, you don't work, and you (as a result of the 2018-2019 shitshow) do get back pay too as well.

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mmnuc3 t1_je4x5qe wrote

Replying to 1clovett (#2,445,783)

Hey everybody. Look at this guy. He lost his job. Therefore everybody else should have to take pay cuts and or lose their jobs as well. And they definitely can't complain about the pay cuts. Because he has it worse off. Everybody knows this is a huge competition. If he doesn't get paid nobody can be paid.

We all have to fight each other to the death. Or something like that. Just don't look up at the robber barons. They don't want you to see what's going on at the table. Make sure the masses are fighting down on the floor.

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acebandaged t1_je4ydl2 wrote

Replying to dmr11 (#2,444,881)

Probably economic health of the state is more important, as it should be. People shouldn't go around getting rid of taxes, they're what allows the country to function.

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horseydeucey t1_je4z04v wrote

Replying to squats_and_sugars (#2,445,439)

This is correct, however I would add that more and more members of Congress are making waves about not retroactively paying the feds Congress has forced to not work during shutdowns Congress has created.

Many (most?) feds are salaried. Politically-motivated government shutdowns further erode the viability of a stable and educated federal workforce - something, I suspect, some in Congress actually want.

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Downvote_me_dumbass t1_je55hu7 wrote

Replying to 1clovett (#2,445,723)

Unless you have cash in the bank or say Golden 1 Credit Union decides to issue interest free loans, those people still have debts to pay. It’s not like they can say “sorry, can’t pay my mortgage or groceries this month, but it’s all good.” There were plenty of budget cycles where there were months without a budget passed and these folks weren’t initially paid.

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srentiln t1_je563eh wrote

Replying to acebandaged (#2,446,868)

While I agree that we shouldn't just go on a tax cutting spree to avoid economic harm, I think taxes that had a pre-defined conditional expiration as part of the original wording when passed should honor that condition.

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Matthew_C1314 t1_je57clw wrote

Replying to MooseTed (#2,437,823)

Texas? If not, then we got the same problems. They built toll roads that are the only direct connections between a few minor cities. Supposed to stop once paid for, got paid off 15 years ago. But I still pay $6 to drive 9 miles with traffic.

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GreasyPeter t1_je57j6s wrote

Wasn't one of the LA city council members refusing calls from the president of the United States to step down after he was involved in a racism scandal?

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GreasyPeter t1_je57rqj wrote

Replying to MooseTed (#2,437,823)

This is extremely common and yet when old school conservatives warn about this type of thing everyone tells them they're off their rockers. I don't agree with a lot of what conservatives say, but this clearly is one slippery slope that gets greased regularly.

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notthatbubbly t1_je5fjbu wrote

i read about this awhile back in "The West without Water" and one of the most interesting parts of this whole thing to me is this...

"Why so many people were caught off-guard by these floods remains puzzling. It appears that the Native American populations, who had lived in the region for thousands of years, had deeper insights into the weather and hydrology, and they recognized the patterns that result in devastating floods."

its sad to me the knowledge that has been lost about this land since we took over it. the floods sound very similar to the ones that happened this winter.

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mickey831610 t1_je5xxr7 wrote

Anyone who describes themselves as a legislator I assume is an incredible douche

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Protean_sapien t1_je6pw3x wrote

Now many of them are paid unworked, how the turn tables.

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srentiln t1_je6rbcv wrote

Replying to acebandaged (#2,459,107)

Because those were the terms agreed to when it was passed, and voters were not given an opportunity to comment on changes to those terms. If this was a business contract, such a violation would render it void.

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that_yeg_guy t1_je78tkb wrote

As a government employee… fuck that. I still have bills to pay that won’t give me a year and a half break.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_je7nb29 wrote

Replying to notthatbubbly (#2,450,407)

Cali has always been described as a hellscape inferno, with earthquakes, floods, mudslides and every other disaster you can think of.

But people are idiots.

No one should be allowed to live there, except a small ish population of farmers.

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Sea_Substance_1004 t1_jebyatn wrote

They must have been really ripping people off to have enough saved up to make it that long without pay

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