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modsarefascists42 t1_irmjjks wrote

You are the most absurd case of dunning Kruger I've seen on this awful site. There's literally DOZENS of studies done on this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068797/

I'm honestly shocked you haven't started spouting antivax bullshit yet. What I am linking to you is very well known and has been studied for decades.

IDK why you're being so petulant but just give. it. up. You're wrong, stop trying to pretend like every source that isn't agreeing with you is invalid, the only thing wrong is the information you believe.

Also it's hilarious that you're ignoring peer reviewed papers yet linking some random YouTube shit.

Edit: here is one from Nature explicitly calling out your argument as harmful to public health.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-020-0558-y

Just because you believe something and you (maybe) went to medical school a generation ago does NOT mean you are always right. If you're to goddamn lazy to even do a Google search before you start throwing fits then you really shouldn't be discussing this topic much less be in the medical field (God I hope not).

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just_some_guy65 t1_irmn908 wrote

Again projection, I followed your first link that is simply re-stating the starting assumptions by referencing "studies". In the references there are links but on following the links we get more of the same, we don't get to see if they are randomised, double blind placebo controlled trials or simply observational studies perhaps funded by people with an interest in the outcome.

In my previous post, the YouTube link has a university professor calmly and rationally looking at the evidence in favour of routine vitamin supplements. Each case he presents at first looks very promising in support until his reveal of what happens when the data is subject to critical examination or a proper randomised trial is done. Over and over what we see is conventional "it must be beneficial, look at the data" overturned by "Actually the high quality studies show the opposite".

The other glaring flaw in what you present is addressed in my two original questions you fail to reply to: What actual clinical issues are documented in quality studies by these alleged deficiencies? For example are we seeing 25% of the world's population suffering from Rickets?

I don't have a problem with correcting a vitamin deficiency that has been demonstrated with peer reviewed science. However a very lucrative industry worth 151 Billion dollars in 2021 https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/dietary-supplements-market Has an obvious vested interest in convincing people that they must have deficiencies in something which is addressed by using their products daily. If this was merely a waste of money that would be one thing but what persuaded me to stop taking them several years ago was the mountain of evidence that they could be actively harmful and when not in the form of food didn't necessarily work in the same way inside the body.

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modsarefascists42 t1_irmtizf wrote

Lol there it is. You're convinced that supplements are all evil and now that you've been proven wrong you're doubling down because you've taken this as an attack on you personally.

I gave you a fucking nature paper and the other is published in a major outlet. You're wrong, give it up.

Also taking basic supplements costs less than $10 a month. Is this seriously a hill worth dying on when it is such a clear benefit to pubic health? I mean for fucks sakes we add all kinds of vitamins to our foods already because we were as a population not getting the full amounts needed.

You're throwing a fit cus I'm advocating that people spend less than 10 a month taking basic vitamins, ones I've shown we are as a population are often lacking if not outright deficient in. Think about that.

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