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[deleted] t1_isuggap wrote

This is covered in the book I'm reading 'The Plantagenets' by Dan Jones, it's a brilliant read and if you think television soap opera shows are a bit far fetched and make believe, this book tells true stories of the kings and queens of England that blow them out of the water!

If I remember rightly King Richard the Lionheart was at the bottom of a castle he had spent three days trying to conquer, when he seen one guy (Peter Basilius?) at the top of the castle, armed with a crossbow and a frying pan as a make shift shield, King Richard mocked him basically saying take your best shot, Peter Basilius (?) Shot his crossbow hitting Richard the Lionheart in the shoulder, he would later die of this injury, shortly after pardoning Peter Basilius!

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SubsequentBadger t1_isupinx wrote

Then after Richard's death they killed the guy anyway for the crime of killing the king.

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[deleted] t1_iswoin9 wrote

Nooooo I always hoped old Petey walked off into the sunset with his frying pan!

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CSWAschollar t1_isuy4mr wrote

You're only son was illegitimate You hired on the side I'll twist your spine like the end of the Plantagenant Line

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MustacheEmperor t1_isvqfwl wrote

Fantastic book! His book The Hollow Crown, about the war of the roses, is also excellent and similarly filled with unbelievable exploits from history retold very well.

Netflix has a show about castles hosted by him right now that’s great too.

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[deleted] t1_iswid5t wrote

I'll add it to my reading list 👍👍

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MustacheEmperor t1_isz7nhp wrote

It's the one I read first, and I picked up the plantagenets after. That sent me on quite a kick, so here's a few others I'd recommend that remind me of Dan Jones' style of telling history:

  • Ian Mortimer's biographies on Edward III and Henry V are great. Edward III's life story sounds like an unbelievable movie and Mortimer really brings the knights of his household to life.
  • The Three Edwards by Thomas Costain is so good I really enjoyed it even after having read an individual biography of each Edward
  • The Norman Conquest by Marc Morris is fantastic and I'd put it on the level with Hollow Crown. I really appreciate how he points out where the Bayeaux Tapestry records the events and does a good job of describing the contemporary sources and their potential biases and how we can interpret from them. His books Castle and A Great and Terrible King, about Edward I, are both also excellent.
  • The Greatest Knight by Thomas Asbridge is the biography of William Marshall and one of my favorites. His life story is unbelievable and as a book it's a good overview of the life and social hierarchy of a medieval knighthood as well as the courts of the many kings he served under. It'll add more to what you already know about that time in history.

Anyway, Dan Jones turned me into a medieval history nerd so there's my bibliography for ya. If you have any recommendations I'd love to hear em! I would really like to find some good books about the French side of the Hundred Years' War.

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[deleted] t1_iszdyt7 wrote

I'll add them to the ever growing book wish list 🤣. Slightly off on a tangent but have you read Bernard Cornwell's series the last kingdom? It's a blend of fact and fiction told from a fictional characters point of view during the Viking invasions. A really good read 👍

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MustacheEmperor t1_iszia5d wrote

I actually just picked up my first Cornwell book, the first book in the Harlequin series! I'm pretty sure I'll be reading them all now, thanks for the rec.

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EmergencyBurger t1_it2tts2 wrote

I have the book War of the Roses, the one with the fancy red cover, and someone at Waterstones said it was great. Do you recommend the hollow crown over that one?

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doives t1_isu8hc1 wrote

700 dead people is a small price to pay for two individuals to earn each others' respect.

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Dr_Downvote_ t1_isu9tva wrote

The battle for the cakes.

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pjabrony t1_isxzgsf wrote

They abandoned the battle when it was found that they weren't truly a biscuit.

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FloofyFurryDude t1_isum6ym wrote

The decisive time. The most time of all time

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Infinite-Storage-638 t1_isv4tmx wrote

Yes the respect between the two sides was well documented. When Richard fell ill, Saladin sent his best medics to help aid him.

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naidz t1_isww5cl wrote

Egyptian movie saladin from 60s is a good watch if you don't mind arabic speech.

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[deleted] t1_istopk7 wrote

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marmorset t1_istzfnb wrote

It's unlikely Richard I was gay. He was known for being exceptionally cruel, and although he spent one night sharing a bed with Philip II as a sign of unity, no one at the time thought anything of it.

He had at least one illegitimate child and held off on marriage because he was having an affair with a woman he couldn't have married for political reasons. Richard I spent much of his life putting down rebellions and going on crusade, it any of his contemporaries thought he was gay they would have made that accusation.

There's a mention to him committing a sin like in Sodom and Gomorrah, but it's thought to reference the fact that he would crush his enemies and rape their women.

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epi_glowworm t1_isu3ch8 wrote

Regardless, Richard I with the persona and showmanship of Freddy would be epic still. Just with more horses.

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bolanrox t1_istpd2m wrote

and like Freddy wasnt born in England either

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NotAGoodDayAhead OP t1_istqux3 wrote

Richard had groupies as well who had the young kid who killed the King with a crossbow bolt skinned alive, despite Richard telling them to show him mercy.

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bolanrox t1_istr73f wrote

Richard gave him props too for such a good shot i thought? gave him armor or money right?

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NotAGoodDayAhead OP t1_istrjww wrote

I can sort of understand where they were coming from to be honest. You don’t let someone kill what is probably your best warrior of all time with a lucky shot and live. The propaganda power is just too much.

The method of execution was overkill though lol.

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