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thisissomefella t1_itt07za wrote

Reply to comment by glad_reaper in TIL Tobacco smoke enemas were used in an attempt to resuscitate victims of near drowning. by sTroPkIN

"Near drowning,” “dry drowning,” “wet drowning,” “delayed drowning,” and “secondary drowning” are not medically accepted diagnoses,3,4,19 and many organizations and lifesaving institutions around the world discourage the use of these terms."

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glad_reaper t1_itt1f82 wrote

Yes. Like "leg removal surgery" isnt a medical term.

Near drowning is liquid asphyxiation. So is dry drowning, drowning, etc.

Its just like how nobody can die from COVID, a car accident, etc. They die from "complications of...."

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thisissomefella t1_itt2668 wrote

Mmmk well it's outdated, not a medical diagnosis, and discouraged from use by Healthcare professionals. So basically you're saying its the term because laypeople continue to erroneously use it. Drowning is the event, it can be fatal or non-fatal.

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glad_reaper t1_itt34go wrote

You know what isnt outdated? Laypeople terms when speaking to the general public.

Yes MD can dx liquid asphyxiation on pt 5yo m. Might rx antibiotics to deal with posssible aspiration pneumonia of pt. Then report to parents.

Or a doctor could tell the parents their son was near drowning. Antibiotics might be prescribed because large amount of liquids entering the lungs could cause pneumonia.

There is a reason nobody reads directly off the floater chart or patient's file.

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thisissomefella t1_itt3bh6 wrote

Cool. It's still wrong though. The term drowning describes fatal and non-fatal.

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glad_reaper t1_itt41es wrote

Lmao ok bud. $10 says your doctor doesnt speak to you with doctor talk. They will not say "wow you must have rhinovirus" or "you have purulent discharge OS so I'm going to dx you penicillin PO BID 10 dys"

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thisissomefella t1_itt4o34 wrote

So first you said the term was a medical term. I showed you it isn't. You said my source didn't say that, so i spoon fed it to you. Then you moved the goal post by saying essentially it doesn't matter anyway because its a common term. Apparently you have no knowledge of outdated terms that can be inaccurate, unhelpful, or offensive. Luckily I'm free to be finished with this conversation and you're free to continue being wrong. Have a good evening.

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glad_reaper t1_itt7657 wrote

It is a layperson medical term. Like how "break" isnt really a medical term either. You do not put "break" in a medical chart.

But alright. Take care

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