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ChevExpressMan t1_iscjdlx wrote

On April 27, 1861, Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus between Washington, D.C., and Philadelphia to give military authorities the necessary power to silence dissenters and rebels. Under this order, commanders could arrest and detain individuals who were deemed threatening to military operations.

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amanamongbotss t1_isco1fn wrote

Replying to NemosGhost (#106,094)

One of the rare examples of the benevolent dictator. /s

He wasn’t a tyrant- he was elected democratically, and while “ignoring the Supreme Court” seems bad, considering our current SCROTUS, I think there are obviously times where ignoring them is probably better for the country. More often than not, even, as they’re usually behind the times (dred Scott?).

Out of curiosity was it the same Supreme Court that issued the dred Scott ruling? Cause yea- I’d have them arrested too.

Edit: yes, this was the Supreme Court Chief Justice that wrote that people of African descent weren’t citizens of the US and therefore claim none of the rights and privileges of Americans.

Taney, the Chief Justice, was a racist POS that stood in the way of progress. I understand that it is philosophically dangerous to argue a president should arrest or ignore another branch of government, for obvious reasons, but- I’m making an exception here with the benefit of hindsight. Fuck that SCOTUS.

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NemosGhost t1_iscvuzp wrote

Replying to TUGrad (#106,270)

Did he arrest hundreds, if not thousands, of judges, politicians and journalists just for disagreeing with him or having a bad opinion of him?

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ChevExpressMan t1_isd4i1q wrote

Replying to NemosGhost (#106,891)

True, he was racist. Very interesting passage in the book "The G.I. War" a lieutenant at the Japanese embassy remarked how the Japanese who'd come to America, were so devoted to a country, even though, their birthright was Japanese.

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Tiabb t1_isdiedr wrote

Replying to NemosGhost (#106,094)

The man kept the US from splintering. A tyrant doesn't give up power, which Lincoln was fully prepared to do if he lost the election.

Stop using words you don't understand.

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RockYourWorld31 t1_ise1ytx wrote

Replying to ChevExpressMan (#106,883)

Not quite.

Executive Order 9066 authorized the military to keep "enemy aliens" - Italians, Germans and Japanese - out of areas of military importance. The general assigned to the west coast for this purpose, General DeWitt, was a huge racist and took the opportunity to declare almost all of the West Coast an area of military importance, and this imprison almost all of the Japanese-Americans loving there in concentration camps.

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RichardTitball t1_iseknw0 wrote

The various Lincoln Civil War Supreme Court cases are rad. Supreme Court basically ruled “Lincoln is too based for due process” like a half dozen times.

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Efficient-Library792 t1_iu2y21n wrote

So ..here's a nifty note. Because of the ruling removing the courts power over extraterritorial military bases..if a lawyer attempted to file something in a guantanamo or othe non territorial base the military could legally imprison them. Even execute them. Unfortunately the courts will go to ludicrous extremes to give the .mil and intel agencies more power during "war time"

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Efficient-Library792 t1_iu2yifa wrote

Replying to ChevExpressMan (#105,905)

He..sortof had to..and this also isnt unusual. In fact jefferson...the man behind the bill of rights...tried to have his politocall enemies arrested when he was president. Constitutional rights tend to go poof during all wars especially large ones. Youll notice dissent flat put isnt tolerated.

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Efficient-Library792 t1_iu6ycnt wrote

Replying to NemosGhost (#297,167)

No beta he didnt. I understand youre ignorant of that as you couldnt even manage a ged and blame poc for the fact youre a failure.

Now please go get a job im tired of you getting $$$$ you didnt pay in every april out of my taxes

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