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Specialist_Shine_298 t1_isdvuvb wrote

Pope Benedict XV had the tiara's jewels removed and replaced by replicas made of coloured glass. The jewels were sold to raise money for the victims of the First World War.

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Qzy t1_ise9lme wrote

What a boss pope.

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NocentBystander t1_isetlqv wrote

Yeah, this Catholic Church thing sounds like a stand up organization. I wonder what else they're known for...

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StanleyZ1978 t1_iseud67 wrote

You're probably gonna want to sit down for this.

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Steammail t1_isevymi wrote

You’re probably gonna want to.. take a sip of this wine for this..

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kazmosis t1_isf34ux wrote

Why do I feel so sleepy after just one sip of that wine?

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xEman26x t1_isf3fkz wrote

Because whatever is in the bread started kicking in already.

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woodk2016 t1_isfae64 wrote

I don't think that was bread....

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Nissepool t1_isg4sfm wrote

Whatever is in that Body of Christ started kicking in already.

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Odeeum t1_ishdbix wrote

There's a Bill Cosby joke in there somewhere...

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HorrificAnalInjuries t1_isgspvo wrote

if you want an organization that is schizophrenically hit-or-miss, you'd be harder pressed to find one as successful and long-lived

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GrumpyBearBank t1_isgu1wm wrote

One of the largest and most successful charitable organizations in the world. Also cannot seem to stop hiding child molesters amongst its clergy.

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RevanTheDemon t1_ishlkvi wrote

Oh it's worse than hiding. Actively enabling, abetting, and recalling them to The Vatican, which is a Sovereign State, to avoid prosecution when they're discovered.

Pope Francis is the PR Pope, yet has done very little to actually change how they handle the child rape problems outside of "Stern warnings".

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ItsSpeltWithaC t1_isgw6qg wrote

Known for being one stand up organization, no?

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GoombaPizza t1_ishct20 wrote

Well, they were one of the good guys in WWII, used to hide Jews in their monasteries/orphanages/etc.

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essdii- t1_ish3svf wrote

I know for a fact my great great great great great great grandparents are in heaven because my great great great great great grandparents bought them golden tickets from the church!! Can you believe it?!? Man. They got a get out of hell free card

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Grandpixbear1 t1_isjprll wrote

Wow! I'd love to see this "get out of hell card". Besides being a very valuable historical artifact!

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stillboard87 t1_isf19lp wrote

At the next World War the Vatican helped Nazi’s hide before providing a pathway to run to South America.

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RBoylson1028 t1_isgz2ba wrote

*Correction: A rogue, Austrian bishop (Alois Hudal) helped Nazis hide and escape to South America, and eventually left the Church when he was discovered and was told he would be dismissed. He was then banned from Rome by Pope Pius XII (who wrote an encyclical condemning Nazism).

The Vatican, in fact, issued false baptismal certificates for tens of thousands of European Jews to save them from the Holocaust.

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GoombaPizza t1_ishdohc wrote

Thank you. I'm no fan of religion and we all know the Catholic church has been corrupt in 50 million different ways, but I will not stand for this particular slander of them. They were the good guys during WWII, an active and invaluable part of the resistance.

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RBoylson1028 t1_ishesnt wrote

Definitely. As a Catholic, I can acknowledge plenty of actual wrongdoings in the Church's history. So honestly I'm mostly annoyed that he felt the need to make something up.

There's so much valid material to choose from if you really wanna hate on the Church.

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stillboard87 t1_ish76xj wrote

The Vatican was active in those ratlines

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RBoylson1028 t1_ish7bw3 wrote

In what way? Please elaborate.

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stillboard87 t1_ish7jl9 wrote

It’s T(oday) I L(earned)

It’s not T(oday) I T(aught)

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flakAttack510 t1_ish8v5n wrote

If you're the one making a claim like this, the onus is on you to provide the evidence.

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Civil_Speed_8234 t1_isimbnq wrote

Using the same sentence that people use to talk to religious people, on someone that hates religious people. And completely correctly too. Well done!

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stillboard87 t1_ish8xb7 wrote

I since have 👍🏼

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RBoylson1028 t1_ishbi9o wrote

Linking a Wikipedia article which mentions nothing about the Vatican being involved =/= providing evidence.

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RBoylson1028 t1_ish84t7 wrote

Mhm. Sounds very credible.

Well I would love to "learn" more about these alleged Vatican-endorsed ratlines. But you can't seem to provide any kind of source or evidence to support your claims.

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stillboard87 t1_ish8e48 wrote

not sure why you’re sympathizing

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RBoylson1028 t1_ish9rp2 wrote

That article mentions nothing at all about the Vatican being involved. But if you had taken the time to read it, you would have found a link to Alois Hudal's bio, which states the following:

>"When, in 1937, Hudal published his book on the foundations of Nazism, Church authorities were upset because of his deviation from Church policy and teachings. Hudal, without mentioning names, had openly questioned the Vatican policy of Pope Pius XI and Eugenio Pacelli towards Nazism, which culminated in the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, in which the Vatican openly attacked National Socialism."

>"In January 1952, the Bishop of Salzburg told Hudal that the Holy See wanted to dismiss him. In June, Hudal announced to the cardinal protector of Santa Maria dell'Anima that he had decided to leave the college, disapproving of what he viewed as the Church's governance by the Allies."

>"After he was banned from Rome by Pius XII, Hudal withdrew to his residence in Grottaferrata, embittered towards Pius XII."

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NeilDatgrassHighson t1_isfazjl wrote

Literally took nazi gold as payment too.

Fucking crooks.

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Gewurah t1_isg0kq5 wrote

You know, balance of the force or something

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Meandmystudy t1_isge4w5 wrote

“You were supposed to bring balance to the force! Not leave it in darkness!”

Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Inner-Historian-597 t1_isejaxg wrote

Thanks for sharing that. As a catholic its easy and for good measure to blast the church recently. Especially with the priest scandals. Its nice too hear some good news lol

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falconfalcon7 t1_isenbz9 wrote

Good news from 100 years ago lol. It's not really good news if you have to look back that far!

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NautilusPanda t1_isenxfj wrote

Yea like priests weren’t doing sketchy unethical and disgusting things before our modern sensibilities developed.

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Wodan1 t1_isesfsj wrote

Google "castrato" and you'll be sent down all sorts of church related rabbit holes.

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Tru-Queer t1_isf778e wrote

Hey, so, you like singing and we like the sound of your voice so if you’ll just turn your head and cough, we’ll just snip these right off and get back to worshipping Jesus

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noejose99 t1_isgnjvh wrote

Wait until you try to figure out when conservatives were on the right side of history!

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IgotanEyedea t1_isg0obp wrote

What’s the hardest part about growing up catholic?

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tfortorment t1_ish59jd wrote

Knowing that you're going to hell no matter what you do.

Edited for spelling mistake

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Oddoctopode t1_iseh2gj wrote

Just need all popes to have ethics like Benedict XV

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