Submitted by Specific_Success_875 t3_y4en3i in todayilearned
Reply to comment by Specialist_Shine_298 in TIL that Napoleon once gave an ornately decorated tiara (a crown) to the pope with 3345 precious jewels inlaid into it. This was actually intended to be an insult, as the tiara weighed 18 pounds and was too small to fit on a human head. by Specific_Success_875
At the next World War the Vatican helped Nazi’s hide before providing a pathway to run to South America.
*Correction: A rogue, Austrian bishop (Alois Hudal) helped Nazis hide and escape to South America, and eventually left the Church when he was discovered and was told he would be dismissed. He was then banned from Rome by Pope Pius XII (who wrote an encyclical condemning Nazism).
The Vatican, in fact, issued false baptismal certificates for tens of thousands of European Jews to save them from the Holocaust.
Thank you. I'm no fan of religion and we all know the Catholic church has been corrupt in 50 million different ways, but I will not stand for this particular slander of them. They were the good guys during WWII, an active and invaluable part of the resistance.
Definitely. As a Catholic, I can acknowledge plenty of actual wrongdoings in the Church's history. So honestly I'm mostly annoyed that he felt the need to make something up.
There's so much valid material to choose from if you really wanna hate on the Church.
The Vatican was active in those ratlines
In what way? Please elaborate.
It’s T(oday) I L(earned)
It’s not T(oday) I T(aught)
If you're the one making a claim like this, the onus is on you to provide the evidence.
Using the same sentence that people use to talk to religious people, on someone that hates religious people. And completely correctly too. Well done!
I since have 👍🏼
Linking a Wikipedia article which mentions nothing about the Vatican being involved =/= providing evidence.
Mhm. Sounds very credible.
Well I would love to "learn" more about these alleged Vatican-endorsed ratlines. But you can't seem to provide any kind of source or evidence to support your claims.
That article mentions nothing at all about the Vatican being involved. But if you had taken the time to read it, you would have found a link to Alois Hudal's bio, which states the following:
>"When, in 1937, Hudal published his book on the foundations of Nazism, Church authorities were upset because of his deviation from Church policy and teachings. Hudal, without mentioning names, had openly questioned the Vatican policy of Pope Pius XI and Eugenio Pacelli towards Nazism, which culminated in the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, in which the Vatican openly attacked National Socialism."
>"In January 1952, the Bishop of Salzburg told Hudal that the Holy See wanted to dismiss him. In June, Hudal announced to the cardinal protector of Santa Maria dell'Anima that he had decided to leave the college, disapproving of what he viewed as the Church's governance by the Allies."
>"After he was banned from Rome by Pius XII, Hudal withdrew to his residence in Grottaferrata, embittered towards Pius XII."
Literally took nazi gold as payment too.
Fucking crooks.
You know, balance of the force or something
“You were supposed to bring balance to the force! Not leave it in darkness!”
Obi-Wan Kenobi
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