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RiceCakeAlchemist t1_iuks3ve wrote

Another interesting fact: if you ever see a Korean inside his own house wearing shoes, run.


amborg t1_iukykyj wrote

I never trust anyone that wears shoes inside their house. I was just watching the show “Dahmer”, and it showed him wearing shoes in his apartment. I was like “Wow, he really was a psychopath”.


xX609s-hartXx t1_iunohlk wrote

Most shows show people wearing shoes indoors though.


amborg t1_iunp0kf wrote

I guess it does look better on film, but they’re on a set. I was mostly just making a joke. I really do prefer to not wear shoes inside, though. I feel like it is more cleanly. Unless you have weird gross feet/socks.


MyWibblings t1_iup17eh wrote

Well, most AMERICAN shows. All Asian shows have slippers or bare feet indoors and show people toeing off their shoes at the door.


CalligrapherCalm2617 t1_iuo4uo5 wrote

I don't understand people who wear regular clothes at home.

I went over my friends the other night to help her with her computer and she was still wearing jeans and a tshirt and fucking shoes. WITH HER WORK BADGE!

It was like 9pm. As soon as I get home shoes, boxer briefs, and jeans and t, gets changed out for shoe lesss, sock less, boxers, sweats and an oversized tshirt.

I keep my clothes laid out by my bed like a fireman


amborg t1_iuo5zb6 wrote

Whenever I get home from the day I always shower and put my clothes in the hamper! Depending on what I’m doing, I might put on “regular” clothes, but yeah, I usually just put on comfy stuff. If I get home and decide to go somewhere else, I never wear the same socks. Some people might see this as wasteful because I do a lot of laundry, but I just don’t like feeling gross.

Edit: I also always lay my next outfit out! It’s just part of my routine, so when I need to leave next I’m clean and everything is ready.


beleafinyoself t1_iumim6f wrote

Lol shoes in the house is pretty common but if they wear shoes on their bed, I can't overlook that


jimizeppelinfloyd t1_iumf82s wrote

That's funny, because I'm almost the opposite. If I go to someone's house where they make everyone take their shoes off when they come in, I consider that a big red flag.


beleafinyoself t1_iumixot wrote

Why is it a red flag? It's their home. Sometimes it's a cultural practice.


jimizeppelinfloyd t1_iumk3zs wrote

It's controlling and I just think it's weird to have a bunch of barefoot adults at a dinner party. In my culture, when someone is a guest at your house, you extend courtesy to them first. It's like guests washing their own dishes, it's nice if they do it without being asked, but forcing them to do it is gauche and indicative of a lack of generosity. That's just my opinion.


J3EBS t1_iumrmed wrote

When you walk around outside, do you watch everywhere you step? Do you avoid every piece of gum, every cigarette butt, every food wrapper? No, you don't. Where do those things end up? On the bottom of your shoe.

If you think that me inviting you to my place is free reign to trudge the garbage on the bottom of your shoe around my house, you're mistaken.


takanishi79 t1_iumstmx wrote

I've found that it's largely regional. In the Midwest, or colder climates shoes off is expected. There's just too much snow, dirt, and other stuff floating around for half the year. The other half it tends to be rainy, so now you're dealing with mud.

Contrast to the American southwest, where it's dry and hot all the time. You're not going to get mud in the house if there's no mud anywhere.

I live in Minnesota, and we keep a stack of slippers around for guests so they can take their shoes off, and still keep their feet warm.


WesternOne9990 t1_iumzkh5 wrote

In Minnesota and I haven’t been in anyones home that lets you keep your shoes on. Sounds really gross.


jimizeppelinfloyd t1_iun4hbm wrote

That's probably a huge part of it. Tracking visible dirt is not an issue in my area and shoes off is very uncommon.


jimizeppelinfloyd t1_iun4a2q wrote

Ok, but I'm just saying I consider that a negative personality trait.


amborg t1_iun92ki wrote

It scuffs my wood floors and I don’t want to wax them every day. Also keep them cleaner. Every house I’ve been to that prefers no shoes in the house has been very clean.


SkylightFlow t1_iul67q8 wrote

Maybe I'm just being thick, but I don't get what you mean. I understand it's custom to take your shoes off inside, however I'm not sure why this might be an indication that the person is untrustworthy or should be fled from.


RiceCakeAlchemist t1_iumn2vh wrote

If a Korean is wearing shoes in anyones home where there isnt some kind of emergency or moving going on, it means

  1. He is there breaking a law.
  2. He is batshit crazy.

Koreans take no shoes in a home rule more seriously than religion.


InkIcan t1_iun16ko wrote

Suddenly, that Frank Costanza plot line makes so much sense.


SkylightFlow t1_iuny7ik wrote

Ah, thanks for educating me on how seriously they take it.


Human_2468 t1_iupbei6 wrote

In college, I went to a party at my friend's place, an American's apartment. The roommate was oriental. Most people took off their shoes. I didn't since my doctor told me not to go bare-footed outside my own house. I didn't want to have my feet injured.

Someone accosted me about not taking off my shoes I said it's an American custom to wear your shoes in the house. They said it was an oriental house, but since my friend was American I said it was an American house.


SecretInflation6937 t1_iuli79g wrote

Shoes track in germs, heavy metals, and toxic chemicals from outside.


Reddit_means_Porn t1_iumgj94 wrote

Instead, I take off my own life if I was ever forced to go outside into all the germs and heavy metals.


qpwoeor1235 t1_iukz9u6 wrote

Yet they think fans will kill them in their sleep


Deluxe78 t1_iulgain wrote

To be fair Korean fans do spin at super fast oxygen removal speeds not seen in the west


penguinsheiter t1_iulzspo wrote

where did they get that from? I remember my gram grams telling me that when I was younger


Cohibaluxe t1_ium0tyo wrote

They think the air being moved is effectively a vacuum, meaning where the air is sucked from loses its air. If you have a fan pointing outside, that means that slowly enough to not make you realize it, you’re removing the air and eventually that would lead to suffocation.


arkangelic t1_iumf7z3 wrote

But why wouldn't they expect air to also flow back?


Cohibaluxe t1_iummzhz wrote

Ignorance, I’d presume. Someone who doesn’t understand really understand how air actually works (likely someone uneducated and poor - this myth predates South Korea’s prosperity by a lot) tells it to their friends who also don’t know how it really works, and so on. If everybody else around you tells you something, it’s very likely you’ll just accept it without skepticism.


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angstt t1_iukyobd wrote

Ondool. A lot of Koreans have died from it, too.


LostMyCleaver t1_iul1nnu wrote

Seems like it's really dependent on a quality build. It seems awesome if it doesn't kill you


VonRansak t1_iulp02n wrote

Romans had similar. It's a popular concept through history, but the whole "one hole in the floor" and you could die. Put a damper on it's widespread use.

It's not a matter of it getting built shitty, its a matter of it getting lived hard. 10 years after install, foundation shifts, gap opens up... Your guard is low because it's worked fine for 10 years...

It's why we use hydronics now, same benefits, less dangerous.


PorQueNoTuMama t1_iultmzo wrote

Not the build, but the fuel used. In the 50's onwards coal briquettes were used for convenience but they had the tendency to burn poorly and produce carbon monoxide.

Traditional wood burning and modern underwater pipe systems are perfectly fine.


PorQueNoTuMama t1_iultgw6 wrote

Not from the traditional ondol. That only started to happen when coal briquettes replaced wood for convenience.

The system itself is fine and still in use in modern housing, but now with heated water underfloor pipes.


Full-Mulberry5018 t1_iukt1xh wrote

Yes, and The Roman's had their very own form of Central heating in their homes - probably long before that. Heating Vents were discovered in houses unearthed in archeological studies. Stone Vents were built under the floors or around the the walls and a large fire was built at the base area. The heat from the fire would travel through the Vents providing warmth throughout the home.


Alundra828 t1_iuml0kx wrote

Actually, while this is true, the title of this post is just wrong.

The earliest example of under floor heating is actually from 5000BC and was found in modern day... North Korea.

So, Korea is still technically the first, before Rome. It's just the date is wrong in the title... Thanks a bunch for the really, really unhelpful TIL OP.


Libra8 t1_iukvf3k wrote

The Roman Empire wasn't around til about 50 BC. But they did have amazing architecture and infrastructure. Wealthy Romans had hot and cold running water and flushed toilets, thanks to the many aqueducts. The Egyptians had the first running water though.


projecthouse t1_iukz5a9 wrote

The Roman Kingdom was formed with the city in 753 BC, and Rome became a Republic in 509 BC. A lot of their famous innovations were made well before they became an empire. The aqueducts were built as far back as 312 B.C.


AdNormal5424 t1_iukxexe wrote

This comment has a yes but we had type energy

Neanderthals had heated water baths, checkmate


SEND_PUNS_PLZ t1_iul7sgy wrote

And the Romans at Vesuvius engaged in the first recorded instance of “the floor is lava”


epochpenors t1_iulhsll wrote

Any house can have heated floors if the material is flammable enough


stuzz74 t1_iulldbb wrote

Europe has also had under floor heating for thousands of years.


brownetown26 t1_iukve4o wrote

It’s because their bed technology is so bad.


Krispyn t1_iumpyrp wrote

Maybe they slept on the floor since the floor was heated


Flash635 t1_iung9i1 wrote

So did the Romans.


barath_s t1_iunq302 wrote

> Ondol ..or gudeul ... in Korean traditional architecture, is underfloor heating that uses direct heat transfer from wood smoke to heat the underside of a thick masonry floor. In modern usage it refers to any type of underfloor heating, or to a..........

> Use of the ondol has been found at archaeological sites in present-day North Korea. A Neolithic Age archaeological site, circa 5000 BC, discovered in Unggi, Hamgyeongbuk-do, in present-day North Korea, shows a clear vestige of gudeul in the excavated dwelling


Human_2468 t1_iupavpx wrote

It would be nice if it became standard in the USA. My high school had it in the bathroom, which was nice after gym class.


upfjords t1_iumdm3g wrote

its one of the things I (and my cats) miss about living in Korea. The rest of the world is missing out.