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JustAPerspective t1_ixdj02e wrote

Reply to comment by OldWorldRevival in TIL singer songwriter Leonard Cohen claimed to have written approximately 150 draft verses of his most famous song "Hallelujah", a claim substantiated by his notebooks containing manifold revisions and additions, and by contemporary interviews. by big_macaroons

Nah.

A few years after your death, no one's going to care what's on your computer, or probably be able to check. It'll be gone.

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OldWorldRevival t1_ixdjpyk wrote

That's not the point I was making - I was just saying that iteration is still very much a part of the process.

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JustAPerspective t1_ixdmk32 wrote

Then you didn't actually make any particular point at all, did you?

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OldWorldRevival t1_ixdppbx wrote

No need to be hostile.

I was merely making the point that despite the existence of delete and undo, the process is still iterative. People still use papers to write lyrics, now it's just that different versions of melodies are kept in DAWs. But there's still a history to the development of a song that is kept.

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JustAPerspective t1_ixefw2n wrote

Wasn't hostile - was making an observation.

Iterative creation, of course. We were focusing on the records of such iterations, the finding of repeated drafts that show the challenges involved in creating. Most people forget that the genius creators are also... just folks, who struggle, draft, re-draft, and second-guess constantly.

These notes, especially hand-written ones, show the emotion of creation as much as they document that it occurred.

You & this one were focused on slightly different aspects of the moment, yet each observation has the potential for mutual inclusion, so... we don't seem to disagree, we were just looking at different things?

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