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Cinemaphreak t1_ix1whti wrote

When I went to Spanish zoo a few decades ago it was such an odd thing to see a racoon in an exhibit after seeing them so often in the wild it was no big deal anymore.


GriffinFlash t1_ix2af3l wrote

Where I live it's weird going to my local zoo and seeing a prairie dog exhibit, while watching wild prairie dogs run around outside of it.


RobertPulson t1_ix3meoa wrote

That might just be prairie dog prison. You don't want to know what kind of prairie crimes those dogs have committed.


musicals4life t1_ix3s5go wrote

I went to the Oklahoma City Zoo and saw bison. The people behind me said "this is boring. We see bison in our backyard all the time"


detumaki t1_ix3zo3d wrote

had a similar experience at a Deer exhibit in Colorado (I don't remember what city). None of the locals cared and I heard a kid ask "are those the same ones that we saw in our yard?"


Captain__Spiff t1_ix2kmw3 wrote

I'm German, we have a number of raccoons in the wild and also some in zoos. I've never seen any outside myself (except for maybe, maybe a single overran specimen but my sis is stupid).

The poor fella in that zoo has orientation problems, some sort of damage to the his inner ear. He's better off in the zoo anyway and people love him.


[deleted] t1_ix2n54q wrote

You know why you have raccoons running around in the wild in your neck of the woods?

Nazis. They thought it would “enrich the local fauna.”


Captain__Spiff t1_ix2nj49 wrote

Now we have wolves in Germany and everyone involved is mad lol


White80SetHUT t1_ix2ry5e wrote

Do you guys hunt at all?


ensalys t1_ix2xxj9 wrote

In the Netherlands hunting wolves is illegal, and I think that ban comes from the EU, so Germany probably can't hunt them. We recently got wolves in our country as wel (they came from Germany). It's the return of a natural predator that should've been in our ecosystem all along. Plenty of people are still mad about it though.


White80SetHUT t1_ix3ouup wrote

Yeah wolves are protected in certain parts of the US too. I just wondered how much of your population hunted in general.


ensalys t1_ix3pvf3 wrote

Very little I'd think. Getting a weapons permit and a weapon can be a bit of a bitch. And hunting itself is rather limited in when and what and how much you can hunt.


KmartQuality t1_ix4sxvb wrote

Where is there enough wild space in the Netherlands to support wolf packs?


ensalys t1_ix4uwrx wrote

Mostly de Veluwe. Though exact locations are kept secret to protect the wolves.


Akegata t1_ix5m2zt wrote

Wolves are (sadly) hunted in Sweden, so it's probably not prohibited by the EU.


mrnoonan81 t1_ix34ot6 wrote

"You know what our dumpsters are missing?..."


AlwaysHere202 t1_ix3nrz0 wrote

It's interesting to think something so common here is unique elsewhere.

I've literally got a live trap outside because a racoon ate two of my chickens last week. Racoons are about as common as squirrels. When I was a kid, I befriended one with breadsticks. I could hand feed it, and then it would scamper away like a bandit with it's masked face!


xX609s-hartXx t1_ix36xo4 wrote

I have heard stories about them lifting our typical roof tiles to dig into the insulation.


Glum_Butterfly_9308 t1_ix2vrpz wrote

There’s a raccoon at the Saigon zoo in Vietnam. No joke, it’s there because it hitched a ride in a shipping container of frozen meat a couple years ago. It ate up a bunch of the meat during the journey and then made itself a little shelter with the leftover boxes to stay warm.


ledzepplinfan t1_ix2f2r0 wrote

I can't believe there was a raccoon in a zoo 😂 I work at a pizza place and we have a permanent family that eats from our dumpster I literally see them every day


Comnena t1_ix39pac wrote

I mean, people have kangaroos in zoos and I can see mobs of them every weekend on my walks (or on the road when the idiots go for a wander). Just depends on what you're used it.


idiotcosmonaut t1_ix2pj80 wrote

we have one that climbs onto our balcony at night when we remember to stock the birdfeeders


Cinemaphreak t1_ix6fpr4 wrote

When I went to Spain I was coming from South Carolina.

I've lived in California for the last couple of decades and see raccoons every month or so in my front and backyards. No, I don't live anywhere near woods or the country. These are entirely urban critters and almost certainly what gave them the nickname trash panda. One got into a trap we had out to catch feral cats and boy was he not a happy camper. But thankfully he waddled off away from me when I let him out.


ledzepplinfan t1_ix6khl2 wrote

The ones who live at my pizza dumpster are extremely fat. Totally unwild and dependant on human life. They're smart too.


mechy84 t1_ix3d19u wrote

Australian friend said the same thing about kangaroos. He said it's like seeing a deer.


jellyrollo t1_ix64ye6 wrote

I went to a wildlife park in Australia where I was able to get my picture taken with a koala, see a wombat's butt (it was sleeping), get bitten by an emu, see a few kangaroos lounging insolently in the brush, and meet some wallabies who approached me and ate pellets from my hand with their fuzzy little lips. Definitely a major highlight of my trip! Wallabies are my jam.


siani_lane t1_ix43nzs wrote

Yep I saw one at a zoo in Japan and I was totally amused. Here in the US they're just a nuisance- like you might as well have a zoo exhibit of rats or pigeons.


cmde44 t1_ix3eew7 wrote

> after seeing them so often in my trash cans



WalkerInHD t1_ix3nw1g wrote

As an Aussie, I get this when I see kangaroos where I grew up, I’d leave my house in the morning and there’s guaranteed to be a mob sitting out the front


evil_burrito t1_ix44ko8 wrote

If that were in the US, it would have been an exhibit of something else that a raccoon had broken into.


asian_identifier t1_ix4hppg wrote

it's like Thais seeing Tokay gecko in the zoo in the US or sold as pets... just go out in Thailand and look up a wall yo


Carnegiejy t1_ix1yafr wrote

There is an island in the Mississippi called Cat Island. When the French first charted it had a huge raccoon population but the French just assumed they were weird looking cats.


DrifterInKorea t1_ix221on wrote

Can confirn. I am French and I still think they are weird looking cats.


CarelessHisser t1_ix2gngu wrote

And thus the phrase:

"There's more than one way to skin a cat"

because early settlers thought things like raccoons were cats.

Our ancestors were not nearly as clever as we give them credit when it came to classification of organisms. Especially given how long beavers and capibara were considered fish.


Arcane_Opossum t1_ix2jhwl wrote

That's more of a Catholic loophole. If anything it proves they were clever.


semiomni t1_ix2oyu6 wrote

Does it? Like how is the loophole "clever"? Just seems like one of their arbitrary rules became inconvenient, so they arbitrarily changed it.


Banjo_Pobblebonk t1_ix2s0m7 wrote

To be fair, it wasn't all Catholics collectively writing these rules. Popes, cardinals and the likes wrote up all the weird religious beurocracy so bored monks with too much time on their hands came up with loopholes to make living in a monastery more bearable. Too many fish days? Beavers and ducks are fish now. Meals must be eaten in silence? Talk in sign language. And do all this while hammered constantly on home brewed mead.


semiomni t1_ix2slwx wrote

Sure there were reasons and background for why it played out that way.

Just saying "clever" does not really enter into it.


KmartQuality t1_ix4t6jm wrote

You described a loophole.


semiomni t1_ix4to66 wrote



KmartQuality t1_ix4xz5n wrote

No, that's a question mark


semiomni t1_ix4y8aw wrote

OK I'll be more clear, what is it you think you're contributing here?


KmartQuality t1_ix4yd4f wrote

We're narrowing down what a loophole is. There seems to be confusion.


semiomni t1_ix50o7l wrote

>There seems to be confusion.

Confusion seems to be entirely on your end.

For one, you just replied to yourself, not me.

Two, the conversation was not about the definition of loopholes, pretty clear to everyone else, how embarrassing for you.


KmartQuality t1_ix5fzv7 wrote

You are too easy to drag into the internet mud. It's dirty and slippery in here. Do you like it? You can leave anytime


semiomni t1_ix5p54d wrote

Pretending you were trolling all along to cover for your obvious misunderstanding.

Glass is less transparent.


SJHillman t1_ix3stni wrote

>Especially given how long beavers and capibara were considered fish.

Thats not because they thought they were actually fish though, anymore than how bees are considered fish under one particular section of California fish and game law. It's just shoehorning one thing under a different category for a specific purpose and having people on the Internet not understand why because they don't bother to umtry to understand how it got to be that way.


thorpie88 t1_ix2fv7o wrote

Australia has Rottnest island because the Dutch thought the Quokkas were rats


Comnena t1_ix39qy7 wrote

Interesting, as the British called Quokkas native cats!


Dragmire800 t1_ix226tk wrote

This is like the opposite of a TIL I had a year ago. I assumed they only lived in North America. I was very surprised to hear Germany had a raccoon population


CarelessHisser t1_ix2grzs wrote

Apparently they have small colonies throughout the west and quite a few places in the east


i_worship_amps t1_ix2huox wrote

IIRC Japan had them become extremely invasive because people read a story about a girl that had a pet raccoon, and promptly got one themselves and realized fairly quickly that they don’t make great pets


zachzsg t1_ix3gun0 wrote

I feel like raccoons could take over basically anywhere that isn’t Antarctica or the middle of a desert. Those mfs are smart as fuck and crafty as hell, studies have shown they’re far smarter than cats and dogs and are more at the level of monkeys.

Growing up I lived in a very rural house, we would lock our doors not because of people, but because the raccoons could open doors. And to go even further, we would leave a key on top of the door. One time we got home and saw a raccoon trying to put the key inside the door. He couldn’t figure out how to get it in, but he was smart enough to recognize that he needed to get the key in the door to open it.


twobit211 t1_ix3k5fq wrote

>He couldn’t figure out how to get it in, but he was smart enough to recognize that he needed to get the key in the door to open it.

that’s some planet of the apes shit


zachzsg t1_ix3u4nm wrote

Yeah it was actually crazy. I guess he had watched us using the key before and tried to give it a shot himself. We basically just watched in amazement as he tried to get the key in there lol


PageTheKenku t1_ix445o4 wrote

I'm not all that surprised, I remember at one point when I was living in Ontario they were sort of at war with raccoons when trying to make a garbage container that prevented raccoons from getting in and was inexpensive enough.

At one point the lid was made more complicated so they wouldn't be able to open it...but this resulted in the material itself being somewhat cheaper, and raccoons would scratch the bottom of the containers until they made a hole to grab stuff out of.


evil_burrito t1_ix44x3k wrote

I remember doing battle with a raccoon in the middle of the night who had come in through the cat door to have some kitty crunchies.

Ten year old me and a broom against a big fat raccoon. He was completely unimpressed as I tried to shuffleboard him out the door.


AidenStoat t1_ix2rp94 wrote

The USSR released some in the Caucasus, so now there are raccoons in Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iran etc.


Tokishi7 t1_ix30mpl wrote

USSR also grabbed some crabbed and brought them across the towards the Fjords and the crabs decimated populations there


Conscious_Bend_7308 t1_ix1zl2u wrote

Opossums are also native, the only native marsupial in the Americas!


catwhowalksbyhimself t1_ix23k3u wrote

They look a bit creepy with their white ghostly faces, but are really quite chill and harmless.


Dessamba_Redux t1_ix25916 wrote

Theyre very chill and cute. Theyre great at eating ticks and stuff like that too. Be kind to our derpy marsupial friends


mrdalo t1_ix27vy2 wrote

Turkeys are the true tick eating heroes


Kneph t1_ix2aruz wrote

We had Guinea Fowl that hung out with our turkeys. Those bastards were tick destroyers


SqrlyWrath t1_ix46hl5 wrote

In my experience turkeys tend to spread the ticks lol usually way more ticks in areas with turkeys


Stachemaster86 t1_ix2knw0 wrote

I knew they exist but damn, just outside of Minneapolis at my house saw one sneaking around. Can’t say I’ve seen a living one. Derpy does seem to be a fair term.


sid_raj7 t1_ix3mg7s wrote

Read that as eating dicks..

Was about to go adopt one.


HoodooSquad t1_ix3ciwh wrote

Chill? Are we talking about the same animal? They angry!


Conscious_Bend_7308 t1_ix3eajy wrote

They will show their teeth if they feel threatened, but they won't attack. Look up animal bites with your state's health dept and you won't find any opossums. They are more likely to roll over and play dead -- "play possum"


zachzsg t1_ix3h86h wrote

They’re also bigger in person than they look in pictures


WikitomiC t1_ix288mp wrote

Marsupials probably originated in North America in the late Cretaceous or early Paleogene, and spread to South America, Antarctica and Australia while the supercontinent Gondwana was still united. Currently about 30% of the extant species of marsupials are native to the Americas.

The opossum on the other hand probably originated in what is now the Amazon rainforest, there are still several species of Didelphidae in South and Central America, but I think the best known is the North American Opossum.


DoofusMagnus t1_ix3m54o wrote

This is not true. There are the shrew opossums which despite the similar common name are a separate order from the "true" opossums, of which the Virginia opossum is only one example. And the monito del monte is another marsupial in the Americas which is even more distant from the opossums.

The fact you may be thinking of is that the Virginia opossum is the only marsupial native to the United States (and bits of Canada). I feel like I've heard it phrased as "native to North America" before but even that isn't true because there are other opossum species in Central America and into Mexico as well.


ucanttrustapenguin t1_ix1stdr wrote

They are also adorable


NickDanger3di t1_ix3xfop wrote

I grew up next to a salt marsh, had so many raccoons in the neighborhood. When I moved out as an adult, I discovered that most other places barely had any racoons at all. I miss the little guys.


slash37 t1_ix2c596 wrote

They’re also vicious rabid bastards that live in sewers


wackk t1_ix259f9 wrote

Who the hell introduced the raccoon elsewhere?


SublightMonster t1_ix27mih wrote

In Japan they were introduced in the 1970s after idiots bought them as pets because of a popular anime (Rascal). They’ve now spread to every prefecture and are pushing out native species like tanuki. There’s an active trap and destroy order for them throughout the country.


K-Uno t1_ix3ag18 wrote

Nooooo, damn that sucks! I love the tanuki

Raccoons are so adaptable too, they would easily out compete many local species around the world


Mad_Aeric t1_ix3vahq wrote

I always wonder what the hell these people were thinking. Rascal established that racoons are terrible pets.


KmartQuality t1_ix4u5wg wrote

Just looked up a tanuki.

It's probably at the local zoo!


Pituliya t1_ix2lama wrote

In germany, they are descended from four raccoons set free to enrich the local fauna in 1934 and various fur farm escapees.


AdRepulsive7699 t1_ix1udid wrote

I love my trash pandas. I want one as a pet. They’re so cute. Have you ever seen their cute hands!?


amborg t1_ix1vn8y wrote

Raccoons are very cute, but they will literally destroy your house.


CryptidGrimnoir t1_ix1yoon wrote

Most of the raccoon family makes terrible pets--coatis, raccoons, kinkajous.

About the only species that's relatively docile is the ringtail.


BigJayPee t1_ix209rk wrote

Can confirm. Just had to get rid of 4 at work. Working out of a double wide, they took out 60% of the insulation and disconnected the vents from the AC unit. It cost a lot to get that repaired.


opiate_lifer t1_ix1ypvy wrote

I've heard anecdotally that they make great pets as juveniles, but are way too aggressive as adults.


paranoidfish89 t1_ix21ui7 wrote

I had one growing up. You HAVE to get them before they open their eyes. The worse problem I can remember was they can get into just about anything. You'll want to babyproof the cabinets. They can be like huskies, leave them alone too long and they start to tear stuff up. If you want to get one you'll want to check local laws since in some places it can be illegal. Not so illegal cops come looking but normal vets can refuse to treat it I believe.


JurassicCotyledon t1_ix29g9c wrote

One time in college I was walking my drunk ass home and decided to get a slice of pizza. While paying I see the back screen door of the joint swinging open just a crack, then 1, 2 and then 3 raccoons scamper across the floor.

They didn’t even look around. They knew exactly what they were doing. I slur something like “dude, yer getn robbed” and this dude turns around the bandits freeze in their steps and look at us like children caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Dude just calmly says “guys, hey, come on.”, and they still don’t move. He walked over to the door, opened it, and said “out”. The raccoons just kind of looked at each other and then slowly walked back out the door.

Buddy walks back over to me shaking his head “fucking trash pandas”.

Apparently they lived in the alley out back and were usually pretty chill. The pizza was maybe a 7/10.


HotSalsaAssFire t1_ix2bu4u wrote

The pause while looking at them…. I’ve encountered that before, along with them having the look of “oh, me, I’m not doing anything here”. Wonder if it’s universal.


OperaGhostAD t1_ix1vjs0 wrote

They’re in a zoo in the Netherlands.


tinoynk t1_ix1w0or wrote

In NYC’s Central Park, the zoo is the one place without raccoons.


catwhowalksbyhimself t1_ix23h4t wrote

Given that they are native there, that is how it should be.


Drach88 t1_ix24m3g wrote

I stumbled across someone feeding them over the park wall up near 108th or so. More trash pandas than I've ever seen. A racoon platoon, if you will. Maybe three or four dozen all waiting for food. As a kid, I recall seeing one casually scaling a fence to the alley between buildings. People forget that Manhattan's got wildlife.


tinoynk t1_ix2k1et wrote

The best wildlife we have is the birds of prey. It’s pretty amazing being in the asphalt jungle and then see a red tailed hawk just tear into a dirty ass pigeon.


PainFlavoredBaby t1_ix3esvh wrote

There's an adorable white one in the Denver Zoo for some reason lmao. I think I spent more time watching it than the Elephants.


I_POST_RANDOM_CRAP t1_ix1t9xh wrote

I guess Disney's Pocahontas made it cool to have a raccoon friend. Those fat little furry blubber balls of teeth and rabies are NOT good pets.


ChevExpressMan t1_ix1uc5e wrote

That's why you don't adopt the rabid ones.....


amborg t1_ix1vuq4 wrote

Even the non-rabid ones are super hard to take care of. They’re not hard to keep alive, but they don’t want to be captive and will destroy your house.


Gekokapowco t1_ix1v3i8 wrote

Eh still, they aren't really domesticated, so owning one would still be asking for trouble


nunziavaer543210 t1_ix6eawo wrote

not only rabies, but raccoons carry a deadly parasite, raccoon roundworms.


fuzzyjuicypeach t1_ix225tc wrote

incredible how certain species adapted so well to live among human populations while others dissappeared completely


Zaltt t1_ix25s8s wrote

Davy crocket wore a racoon as a hat


pm_me_ur_memes_son t1_ix2cq2p wrote

Well I’ve never seen or heard of a racoon outside of the States.


KrispyCrime t1_ix3bwng wrote

Come to Toronto, there’s 3 raccoons to every human /s


Not_as_witty_as_u t1_ix2gk5z wrote

So where else are they then?


IBeTrippin t1_ix2iwtq wrote

Germany, Ukraine, Russia, Japan. I've heard of them being seen in France too. In Europe they were brought over for their fur but escaped. In Japan there was an anime that made raccoons popular pets, and a lot escaped or were released.


bthks t1_ix2teog wrote

I am honestly surprised they never brought them to New Zealand. I swear they've introduced every other animal here.


pickleer t1_ix2d9dx wrote

That was the beginning of their slow-rolling takeover...


New_EE t1_ix2lvv3 wrote

No where else has racoons? Well if you've never seen one in real life....go ahead and go up to one and say hi. They are super fluffy and love to be petted!


GrilledCheeser t1_ix2649f wrote

They eat fast food. I like them for that.


Jameschoral t1_ix2gh6f wrote

HA! You colonizers brought opossums, black rats, feral swine, English starlings, and released cats that have decimated the ecosystem.



McMacHack t1_ix3fata wrote

I love the on going joke in Parks and Rec that there is a part of Pawnee that belongs to the Raccoons. "They have their part of town and we have ours, that's the truce."


dinoroo t1_ix1wp81 wrote

Guardians of the Galaxy lied to me.


sylvesterkun t1_ix20h1m wrote

To be honest, Rocket being an asshole for no reason is pretty on the nose for actual raccoons.


cosmoboy t1_ix1zwjb wrote

Not really. Thor refers to him as rabbit because when he was a Norway regular, they didn't have raccoons.


dinoroo t1_ix228jz wrote

But Rocket is not from North America.


Darmok47 t1_ix4zv9e wrote

I'm pretty sure he's meant to be a regular Earth raccoon that was experimented on. The Nova Corps mention he's the result "illegal enhancement of a lower life form."


DrifterInKorea t1_ix21tdp wrote

They are cute.
I met with one last week, thinking it was a cat.
But it was making sounds while walking so instead I thought it was a dog.
But then getting closer it looked like a very strange not-doggy thing at all.
Once close enough it turned around and completely froze.

It was huge so I guess it was emptying stray cats food that old ladies are giving out.

This was a bit random just like the encounter.


NathanJMc t1_ix2bpxh wrote

So far I’ve learned from two separate reddit posts that tomatoes and raccoons are native to North America. Is this today’s karma farming topic?


AWizard13 t1_ix2h73p wrote

What about the Raccoon Dogs of Japan!?


Solidsnakeerection t1_ix41oyb wrote

Tanuki arent raccoons but Japan also has raccoons that were brought over as pets but then released


66rwd t1_ix2knvo wrote

Hey I'm in NA and I don't have any but I know lots of people who do Why would you import some


Huckorris t1_ix2lrgi wrote

No wonder that Russian was so stoked to steal a raccoon from the Kherson zoo.


penguinpolitician t1_ix2sg5y wrote

I didn't know they'd been introduced anywhere else.


Layhult t1_ix3aeng wrote

If I have to deal with trash pandas, then so do you.


qorpo_santo t1_ix3lru7 wrote

In South America there is a native similar species, Procyon cancrivorus


neighbor_jim t1_ix3mnfh wrote

Ah, the Noth American Trashius Pandis.


jdbcn t1_ix3o46f wrote

Lots of wild raccoons in Madrid. Someone must have let them free


AssertRage t1_ix42fch wrote

There are also raccoons in south america called coatis


asian_identifier t1_ix4hhse wrote

I don't get this... isn't this like saying "Kangaroos are native to Australia"?


Beneficial_Tough3345 t1_ix4zoho wrote

Take our trash pandas and our skunks too we have way too many here the cops here in North Dakota just murderd a raccoon a few weeks ago because some woman took it into a bar and the bartender thought it might have rabies so they hunted it down and shot her pet raccoon that she had been caring for since finding it on the side of the road as a baby and raising it as a pet


Beneficial_Tough3345 t1_ix53a63 wrote

Take our trash pandas and our skunks too we have way too many here the cops here in North Dakota just murderd a raccoon a few weeks ago because some woman took it into a bar and the bartender thought it might have rabies so they hunted it down and shot her pet raccoon that she had been caring for since finding it on the side of the road as a baby and raising it as a pet source


Knull_Gorr t1_ix5rig1 wrote

Racoons are found outside of NA?


FatQuack t1_ix634tf wrote

When I was a kid in New York in the 70's raccoons were a mostly a southern thing but now they're all over the place here and many other northern cities.


NightHawk877 t1_ix80ofa wrote

My mom had a pet raccoon. She told me it was the worst pet she has ever owned.


Eliseo120 t1_ix2z0zr wrote

I visited Italy recently and didn’t see a single squirrel there. Also, there pigeons almost always seemed to have fucked up feet.


krys2lcer t1_ix2hj8w wrote

Well they make good hats so idk