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ilikegreensticks t1_ixlpxi1 wrote

His final words were "tell the people that homosexuals are not by definition weak"

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nuclearswan t1_ixnjwuv wrote

Sadly, still a poignant lesson today.

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Snownova t1_ixpdhdd wrote

The mugshot of the Club Q shooter very much reinforces that lesson today. That hateful little shit got his ass whooped something good.

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Cetun t1_ixmcozq wrote

When they liberated the concentration camps they prevented the homosexuals from leaving.

Edit: Downvoted because truth, another reddit moment.

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MobilerKuchen t1_ixmio7z wrote

Soon after they were incarcerated again in regular prisons, but the time spend in concentration camps was not deemed validly served prison time. How we treated gay people was another irredeemable injustice of the early 20th century.

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Cetun t1_ixn3ok6 wrote

They are the allies, homosexuality was a criminal offense in Britain and the United States, therefore when the concentration camps were liberated innocent camp prisoners such as Jews and political prisoners were separated from prisoners that had committed some sort of offense. Since homosexuality was an offense under German law under British law and under United States law it only made sense to the allies that homosexuals should remain in custody until they served out their sentence. As another redditor pointed out their time in the concentration camp did not count towards their sentence so they would remain in prison after the war to complete their full sentence.

I am saying, had he been captured and put inside of a concentration camp he would have been kept in one after the war. Let's also not forget that after the war they prosecuted Alan Turning, despite being a war hero. Arondeus maintaining a status of open homosexuality would have been prosecuted by the very allied coalition he was helping.

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[deleted] t1_ixn42a3 wrote

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Cetun t1_ixn5xj6 wrote

You don't think people in concentration camps were taken from other countries? If he was arrested by the Nazis for being a homosexual he would remain in a concentration camp until he served out his sentence, despite the fact that he was fighting for the allies. It's not a stretch in this post he's clearly celebrated for being gay, a classification that would see him persecuted by the very governments liberating his country. There is an irony and injustice in that that should be addressed. It's fine to talk about how the Nazis persecuted homosexuals, but it's off limits to talk about how the Allies persecuted homosexuals? We can only get some sense of justice by pointing out what the Nazis was bad but it's off limits to talk about injustices continued by the Allies? Gays in Allied controlled concentration camps don't get memorials?

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antestrophe t1_ixmny8i wrote

Thank you, Willem.

FUCK FASCISM

Ps: if you want to see a great film about the Dutch anti-Nazi Resistance check out Flame & Citron with Mads Mikkelsen and Thure Lindhardt.

Edit: I was mistaken on nationality but it doesn't discount the sentiment.

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Oli__ilO t1_ixmtsn5 wrote

Not sure if you're joking, but I'm pretty sure that one is about Denmark lol

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antestrophe t1_ixmv7hw wrote

Imdb has both Dutch and dane references. My apologies

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Davidrussell22 t1_ixlmwjb wrote

Another hero who should be remembered.

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FloofJet t1_ixo6orh wrote

The Amsterdam fire department was dragging their feet in showing up at the fire. After threats of German officers, they started putting the fire out. They made sure that the paper handwritten records that where rescued out of the building by German soldiers were properly soaked too, making them unreadable. If you would go there today, you could still see the roof profile on the adjacent building. The second floor being lost to the fire, has never been replaced. Sad historical bonus fact: The SD had a full copy of the records stashed in the Hague.

Source: used to work at the Resistance museum across the street.

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TacoCommand t1_ixo5cf1 wrote

What an absolute legend. That's badass.

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ColtS117 t1_ixrlwrt wrote

I’ll bet his paintings were leagues better than the ones painted by the cunt with the dumb mustache.

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substantial-freud t1_ixt3ngo wrote

What is a “gay painter”? He painted portraits of gay people?

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GrandmaPoses t1_ixlzac4 wrote

He was caught soon after his arrest?

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Major_Lennox t1_ixm0y3c wrote

"he was executed soon after he was caught"

There - does it make sense to you now?

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westbee t1_ixn8hlk wrote

Reread it. But this time pause after the word caught.

He was caught ... and executed soon after his arrest.

It makes perfect sense. He was caught. Then after his arrest he was executed.

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TheCuddlyVampire t1_ixnbm5e wrote

To be caught here is to be arrested. And there’s two stretches of time, so to which does soon after apply to?

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westbee t1_ixnk31f wrote

Did you not see the pause indicated by the dots (...).

Which do you think soon after applies to?

If you still need help it's obviously the executed part.

If it will help make sense to you and everyone else, make both words the same. Either use arrested or caught in both cases.

Example:

He was areested ... and executed soon after his arrest.

Make more sense for you?

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GrandmaPoses t1_ixoedd6 wrote

I understood what was meant, it was just worded poorly.

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ITHICA_ t1_ixolrpg wrote

Why are you so full of hate? What happened to you?

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HammerandSickTatBro t1_ixmkat7 wrote

Imagine being so intensely homophobic that a reddit post that happens to be about a heroic gay dude pisses you off like this

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[deleted] t1_ixmlda1 wrote

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beyondsouthernreach t1_ixmlt5v wrote

If you had actually checked the link, you would have seen that his final words were: "Tell the people that homosexuals are not by definition weak."

He absolutely cared about people knowing. You are clearly uncomfortable with gay people and should probably work on that.

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beyondsouthernreach t1_ixml68e wrote

Yeah you're right, let's never speak about specific resistance members ever.

It's not like we're on a subreddit dedicated to specific facts or anything.

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HashStash t1_ixmgots wrote

Not really a spotlight, more of a fun fact.

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gheiminfantry t1_ixmc4l0 wrote

A gay painter? Like a house painter, only different?

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Slurm818 t1_ixmd2cr wrote

Nope he was just a happy dude. Gay had a different meaning in the 1930s.

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gheiminfantry t1_ixmdh23 wrote

Then why are all the "gay people" so angry about LGBT rights? Does Not Compute.

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