First of all I don't watch MSNBC, I read books. History books you might give it a try. First-hand accounts of what it was like written by the people who were there at the time. You can spin it any way you want but the fact remains that millions of people were enslaved for hundreds of years. Civil War was fought over whether or not we could continue treating human beings as property. The South likes to reframe it just as they're attempting to do today and say they were defending their homeland but the reality is it was all about whether or not as a country we're going to allow that important policy. So you can spin it any way you want my good friend I know what path I choose.