SteakHoagie666 t1_ivm1vo4 wrote on November 8, 2022 at 11:12 PM

Reply to comment by Qwez81 in TIL that the "Lost City of Atlantis" was invented by the philosopher Plato, as a fake enemy for Athens that lost favour of the gods and was sunk in to the sea. by PDRugby

Heroditus actually had a city on his map of the known world named "Atlantes". So the tale was around longer than Plato.

ModeratelyTortoise t1_ivmgad0 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 12:56 AM

What Plato was told was that it sunk 9000 years before his time

freiwilliger t1_ivm8b5u wrote on November 8, 2022 at 11:58 PM

That referred to people from Mount Atlas not the mythical island.

SteakHoagie666 t1_ivm9hw8 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 12:06 AM

It wasn't a mythical island until plato said it was a mythical island. It could've been used as some inspiration for the tale. But who knows.

Torugu t1_ivnxhox wrote on November 9, 2022 at 9:45 AM

No, not "who knows".

The "Atlantes" are a group of ancient Libyans* who lived in the Atlas mountains. It's not a city, it's a tribe, their history is well established and their descendants are still around today.

The Atlantes are completely unrelated to the mythical Atlanteans. They have literally nothing in common except that their names sound vaguely similar. This is about as close to fact as anything can be.

^(*Libya referring here to all of North Africa West of Egypt, not just the modern country)

SteakHoagie666 t1_ivnyb68 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 9:57 AM

In platos story one of the sons of posieden, Atlas is " made rightful king of the entire island(atlantis) and the ocean (called the Atlantic Ocean in his honor), and was given the mountain of his birth and the surrounding area as his fiefdom."- from Wiki.

So.. I mean... the king of atlantis is named after the mountain range and ruled over the area as his fiefdom.. in platos story... but if you're sure there was no connection and no inspiration whatsoever drawn from it Okey fuckin dokey.