Submitted by theotherbogart t3_yr2pva in todayilearned
Reply to comment by SpaciousTables in TIL In 1983, Air Force One (with Reagan aboard) landed six minutes before a microburst slammed into the ground at Andrews Air Force Base, causing wind speeds to hit 149 mph. At the time, that was the fastest wind speed ever measured by an anemometer. by theotherbogart
Idk. I was young, but I still remember zombie Reygun more. It may have to do with seeing my city deviated by poverty and property loss.
Bush was just sort of there to murder people for oil.
They're talking about Daddy Bush, who didn't do that. He was President when the UN stopped Saddam from doing that.
Hell, he specifically decided not to push into Iraq to take advantage because it'd be an endless quagmire of guerilla warfare.
His faults were financial and economic, in regards to deregulation and NAFTA, not naked imperialism.
NAFTA was Clinton, tho. Otherwise, yes
Negotiations did begin under Bush, fwiw
Yes, it took five years of negotiating. Doubtless wasn't helped by the change of administration, but it was, at the end of day, basically trading one neoliberal for another.
Oh for fucks sake.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/bush-orders-operation-desert-shield
I may have been young, but I’m not fucking stupid.
Yes, that's the point they made. That operation was to stop Saddam from killing people for money, it was actually a justified war on America's end.
Except, that is entirely subjective and I think I just stepped on someone nostalgia.
Motivating for even getting involved was motivation by “resource protection” not people protecting as he bombed civilians and civilian infrastructure intentionally. Especially when we are talking about: food processing, electrical facilities, water treatment plants.
Which obviously led to a break down of being able to care for the population properly; which in turn led to disease, instability and even more death. 158,000 dead. 13,000 immediate civilian deaths with 70,000 following due to disease, hunger and squalor.
That’s not “helping people”; it’s also not “stopping the bad guy” especially because said bad guy was in power until Baby Bush decided to use 9/11 to finish what Daddy Bush started.
A war in which we are still in.
And then! There is also his involvement in the Iran Contra affair which facilitated selling arms to Iran. Call me crazy, but I’m pretty sure that was intentional destabilization of the area in an attempt to justify starting a war seeing as Bush Sr covered it up, pardoned collaborators, and refused to cooperate with investigations.
There is also his deep ties to big oil.
Both wars were started with the aim of seizing control of oil fields; justification for starting either was never “naked imperialism”; the outcome, however, was.
Operation Iraqi Liberation
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