radio_allah t1_j29myua wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:27 PM

Reply to comment by Flares117 in TIL: Zhu Youcheng is the only emperor in Chinese history, to be married to one wife and remain faithful to her, having no concubines. He was a hardworking emperor, lowering taxes, reducing spending, and demonstrating tolerance for Muslims. His son, however, had a haram so large, some starved. by Flares117

> He was regarded as one of the greatest Emperors

Interestingly, he wasn't. And not because he's not benevolent enough, but that he's not expansionist or 'glorious' enough. Most modern Chinese folks wouldn't know who he was, and if you ask about greatest emperors, would give you Emperor Wu of Han, Taizong of Tang, Kangxi, or the First Emperor, and even if you ask specifically about the Ming dynasty, would likely give you Emperor Yongle. All those were better conquerors.

It's actually a shame how most competent but peaceful emperors are little known, and do not make it to 'greatest' lists.

CrestedBonedog t1_j2anljx wrote on December 30, 2022 at 9:22 PM

He sounds a lot like the Roman emperor Antoninus Pius, similarly not well-remembered despite being a very competent, good ruler who presided over one of the longest stretches of peace in Roman history.

Ahelex t1_j2atdvy wrote on December 30, 2022 at 9:59 PM

Maybe the rule "You know you're competent at your job when no one notices you or what you're doing" does exist in some capacity in high positions too.