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herbw t1_iz6t8ez wrote

Reply to comment by PuckSR in TIL "The Twelve Days of Christmas" STARTS on Christmas Day, and ends of January 5th (Three Kings Day). by HauntedHippie

Nothing ever fits very well at all. Nope censuses were not recorded in historical Roman records, or are not now existing records.

Herodian myth was yet another bit of "improving the tale" to make ti conform to a peculiar, not well accepted bit of OT mythologies.

However, Pontius Pilatus condemned Jeshua. And there is NO source at all, including for the above "census" which is likely a bad translation, too.

However in the last 20 yrs .an engraved in marble stone was round No. of Israel. Pontius Pilatus on it. Provenance and time good. So He did exist. perhaps a gov of something. Bit proof that some of the tale was true, however.

Many try to interpret myths in terms of other myths, and that's just Double Trouble, in critical thinking.

Jeshua was 2 when they fled. That had to be a warm time, too. Thus gutting the shepherd tale, again. doesn't sayu when he came back, but as he studied in Yeshive to be a rabbi, had to before age 12. yet again, HUGE miss.

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PuckSR t1_iz6u3m7 wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_Census_of_Quirinius_was%2Cwho_died_in_4_BCE%29.?wprov=sfla1

We literally have his tombstone which records the census chief

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herbw t1_iz7l66j wrote

sorry for the times of ca. bc 10 to bout AD 10 there is NO list of
quirinius, nor Pontius pilate, that I can see.

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PuckSR t1_iz7n5kc wrote

Did you see the picture of the big rock?

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herbw t1_iz7qakg wrote

Only the shots in movie, Disneyland orlando. Was all CGI, too.

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PuckSR t1_iz7trvi wrote

Oh, you're a troll. That explains a lot

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herbw t1_iz7m1f6 wrote

Those, sadly are all estimates but not dates known.

Quirinius I see no dates for him either. Pontius pilatus nothing. do you have somethin less than an encyclopedic text which do NOT have the time for to go thru.

We do NOT have any dates from birth of Jeshua at all .Nor do we know Quirinius' because i refuse to go thru centuries of listings.

what is date of Quirinius, please? but far as I could tell, we have NO dates of the censuses, either, because we do NOT have maps for which places in Romans times those would be listed in. was it nazareth, or bethlehem? Those are not shown.

If you can cite specifics instead of encyclopediasl,then we can discuss it.

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PuckSR t1_iz7n3mx wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius#/media/File%3AIscrizione_funeraria_di_Quinto_Emilio_Secondo%2C_seconda_met%C3%A0_del_I_sec._d.C..JPG

I didn't cite an encyclopedia chief. I linked to the encyclopedia because it literally has the tombstone of a soldier who served under Quirinius during the census

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herbw t1_iz7qeyk wrote

what page and year was that? please.

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PuckSR t1_iz7szpg wrote

What page on the stone tablet?

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PuckSR t1_iz6uha3 wrote

And we know of Pilate through numerous Jewish historians. They hated him. Apparently he was a real tool

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