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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0aimhy wrote

Reply to comment by noshore4me in TIL Korea has soy sauce older than USA by SmashScrapeFlip

When talking about wine we still do.. :) The bigger wine producers of Europe are called "the old world" while usa, South America, South Africa and Australia is referred to as "the new world" :)

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tyvanius t1_j0atygt wrote

The same rule applies to tarantula species!

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konosyn t1_j0aw394 wrote

And primates, and vultures, and other critters. Probably plants too.

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CharlemagneIS t1_j0apx14 wrote

Which made the Judgment of Paris the colossal upset that it was

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Nazamroth t1_j0b3i06 wrote

Oh boy, I never get tired of that. I can only imagine their faces when they realized the magnitude of their fuck-up.

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RushDynamite t1_j0cy167 wrote

As a Napa native I also never get tired of it. Imagine picking a fight twice being the judge of the contest and losing both times.

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salton t1_j0aufy7 wrote

Europe's wine owes its existence to the grafting of vines to American grape root stock that weren't vulnerable to a species of aphid that was destined to wipe the industry out.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_French_Wine_Blight

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0awt3d wrote

And americas wine industry owes its existence to the thousand years old traditions, knowledge and varieties from europe for existing in the first place, so everyone benefits from not putting themselves on high horses. :)

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x21in2010x t1_j0b3tqw wrote

What is this, the magic of globalism?! How dare us for getting better quality wine on 5 continents today.

Free trade is essential for human rights, we hope.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b65og wrote

Exactly and who could possibly not want higher quality wine becoming more available and affordable!

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sjk8990 t1_j0c09z9 wrote

Globalism: the cause of, and answer to, all of life's problems.

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Nazamroth t1_j0b3l9x wrote

Help, I have acrophobia and someone put me on this shire horse!

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Lurker_IV t1_j0b5g7s wrote

American grapes were a popular and common native food. They might not have had a specific wine industry (as far as we know) but they were as domesticated a food crop as corn. Thousands of years of traditions on both sides.

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Girly_Shrieks t1_j0ax5qx wrote

Did you really have to be a dick about it? To your credit you do sound like a European trying to be highborn.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0axv6i wrote

I were a dick about it? Did you even read the comment I answered? I merely laid out the entire story instead of the selected part that fit their narrative.

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salton t1_j0azdn6 wrote

You just seem a little defensive.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b0qa9 wrote

Sorry mate, I'm not the one using one half of a story to make my point seem more valid, so no, I don't think so. :) All I did was pointing out that the "new world" still applies in a specific context. Then whoever became all defensive about "Europe owing everything to the us" when it comes to wine. I'm sorry, but you clearly haven't read the discussion from the beginning.

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salton t1_j0b0tr0 wrote

Why are you even talking to me? You're point is unrelated to mine.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b13kl wrote

I'm explaining why your point is wrong, thats all :)

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salton t1_j0b162z wrote

How old are you?

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b1alx wrote

If you know I'm old enough to be interested in the agricultural part of winemaking thats pretty much all you need to know :)

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salton t1_j0b1fu5 wrote

I posted a link to references. I calmly explained what happened. If you want to refute that with your own sources that's on you.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b1v4j wrote

I'm sorry, I confused your username with the guy who called me a dick, that's on me.

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salton t1_j0b21pr wrote

If true then NP. No harm no foul. I could have been egging you on a bit.

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0b38t0 wrote

Yeah and I could have not reddited while working so maybe qt least one of them would have been "executed successfully" :P Have a nice day!

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Krnpnk t1_j0b7cvk wrote

Yes they saved it from a aphid that also came from America...

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salton t1_j0b7lc5 wrote

I was waiting for the first person to actually read the wiki.

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tim-fawks t1_j0bhxms wrote

Yah brought to Europe by some French guy so check mate

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UncommonHouseSpider t1_j0cdvum wrote

Is Canada old world then? We aren't on your list?

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onehandedbraunlocker t1_j0dhdgo wrote

I honestly don't know, Canada certainly doesn't belong to "the old world" when it comes to wine and I'm not sure if it belongs to "the new world" either or if it, like my own country, doesn't belong to either. :)

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