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tyedyezzz t1_j5ut64a wrote

"For every person with real pain, there are multiple dramatic actors."

You said that in this thread.


Poggse t1_j5utdcg wrote

Yeah, doctors over prescribe and over diagnose because they are paid to do that by big pharma. What's your point


tyedyezzz t1_j5utm3s wrote

You're arguing with 'stats' but now you're saying don't pay attention to 'stats'.


Poggse t1_j5uu4vk wrote

Stats are made by companies with agendas. Stats are advertising. They aren't representative of reality.


tyedyezzz t1_j5uua5i wrote

"Less than 1% of patients are determined to be fakers, so your argument doesn't hold up against stats."

Why is this important to you then?


Poggse t1_j5uuvor wrote

Because a doctor is always going to diagnose and prescribe. That's how they make money.

So if they determine someone is a faker, it must be an extremely egregious and obvious example that warrants no diagnosis or prescription.

But of course, it's very easy to say the magic words to get the doctor to open up their prescription pad.

It's like you have no idea that there's an opioid epidemic.

Or how medical Marijuana laws worked before recreational weed was available.

People are constantly gaming the system. If you are too naive to accept that, then I have a bridge to sell you.


tyedyezzz t1_j5uwhxj wrote

If you look at the OP, it says that 1/4 people who visit a GP have physical conditions that cannot be explained. Whether you agree with the stats or not, I'm not sure. But that's the post we've met under.


Poggse t1_j5ux06g wrote

That won't stop a doctor from giving them drugs or fussing over them, which is what fakers ultimately want.


tyedyezzz t1_j5ux82d wrote

"Because a doctor is always going to diagnose and prescribe. That's how they make money."

So I think we can remove 'diagnose' from this.


Poggse t1_j5uxbyg wrote



tyedyezzz t1_j5uxgi2 wrote

Because if a condition can't be explained, it can't be diagnosed, to my understanding.


Poggse t1_j5uxkly wrote

They'll just diagnose whatever makes money and/or gets the patient to fuck off.


tyedyezzz t1_j5uxx9b wrote

But the OP says 1/4 people who visit a GP have medical conditions that can't be explained. So if you accept that, that's not quite what's happening.


Poggse t1_j5uy9pb wrote

Just because it can't be explained doesn't mean they won't get drugs.

And if they're not after drugs, they're likely just starved for attention. Nothing makes them feel more important than a sympathetic doctor asking them about their life like they matter.


tyedyezzz t1_j5uyg9l wrote

I think they do matter.

And getting drugs isn't a diagnosis.


Poggse t1_j5uynyz wrote

I didn't say it was.

They only matter to the doctors in terms of dollars, not in terms of people.