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biskmater t1_j6m3lhl wrote

While there’s a certain element of truth to it, as in you miss every shot you don’t take. In my experience fortune favors the lucky.

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Krasmaniandevil t1_j6mrnyz wrote

There's a secret to hiring someone who's lucky. Take half the resumes you get and throw them in the trash, cause you don't want to hire anyone so unlucky. The remaining half are the lucky ones, but if you want to hire someone REALLY lucky, you pull one out of the trash and hire them.

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zw1ck t1_j6mthfn wrote

That must be how I got hired for my first after college job. My interview was terrible.

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sponge_bob_ t1_j6mtn9y wrote

Just have to be better than the other candidates.

Or you know, it wasn't as bad as you thought

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VincoClavis t1_j6n8e8c wrote

But if it’s a really shit job, then that person is actually really unlucky.

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Epic_Meow t1_j6naidx wrote

couldn't you just pick someone from the stack at random and then throw the rest out

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Krasmaniandevil t1_j6ndhnx wrote

That person would be lucky, but not very lucky. It's the whole "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" angle that makes it.

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Epic_Meow t1_j6ngj2f wrote

but you're doing the same thing either way. unless their resume manages to catch your eye from the trash unexpectedly, maybe that's what you meant idk

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Dookie_-_Monster t1_j6nole0 wrote

The chance of picking one paper out of a stack is 1 / n (n is the number of papers).

The chance a piece of paper goes in the trash is 1/(.5n). The chance that piece is then picked out of the trash is then 1/(.5n) again. Multiply those and you get 1/(.25n^2).

So we can compare them to see if those are actually the same quantity.

1 / n < 1/(.25n^2)

n < .25n^2

4n < n^2

4 < n or n > 4

So if your stack has 4 or more pieces of paper in it, getting the paper out of the garbage is less likely (i.e. luckier) than just picking the paper out of the whole stack.

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Athildur t1_j6nyzqa wrote

So let's say...10 papers.

Chance of any one to be picked blindly: 1/10.

Chance any one is discarded into the trash: 5/10 (not 1/5 as you said, it should be .5n/n, or just 50%).

Chance for any one paper being picked out of the trash: 1/5 (since there are 5 in the trash).

1/5 of 5/10 is 1/10. Which is the chance we started with by just picking at random.

So no. Getting the paper out of the garbage isn't less likely at all in your example. The only factor not included here is the likeliness that one is picked from the trash at all. Since, if this were an uncommon event, it would make chances lower. But since this experiment presumes doing so is already predetermined (since you've built this selection method purposely), it adds no rarity or value.

In fact, since you premeditated this, arguably the stack in the trash is less lucky since you already decided at the start you'd pick one of those.

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Gathorall t1_j6m6tyk wrote

A when A. In addition it is also apparent that being lucky causes boldness on its own and vice versa: a person who often succeeds is eager to try, someone who fails more than their share is going to be hesitant with even little risk.

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Traditional_Entry183 t1_j6niqbz wrote

A lifetime of things outside of my control going against me has certainly help mold me into an exceptionally cautious, risk averse person. No doubt.

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Crosstitch_Witch t1_j6o3a82 wrote

Same, also anxiety filled.

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Traditional_Entry183 t1_j6oj741 wrote

I've dealt with anxiety and depression since I was a little kid also. I'm sure it all gets mixed together in the recipe to produce who I am.

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psymunn t1_j6n932k wrote

Eating 4 leaf clovers, shaving dice, adjusting your SPECIAL stats

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radio_allah t1_j6nw8zr wrote

My personal flair on whatsapp for a long time has been 'fortunatos fortuna iuvat' - 'fortune favours the fortunate'.

It's just the way the world works. If you're born privileged you get more privileged. The lucky becomes luckier.

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