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MiniMunch t1_j6kxwdf wrote

Yes no surprise Liverpool had a big hand in the slave trade.

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glintandswirl t1_j6mrq0p wrote

I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted. It’s a fact. As was Bristol. The Slave trade is well documented in the Liverpool museum and there are a number of streets named after slave traders… Penny Lane the famous Beatles song is about a street widely believed to be named after slave trader James Penny. Source I live in Liverpool.

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MiniMunch t1_j6mxb61 wrote

Yeah we literally do a whole section on it at my university in Liverpool. I think people would rather believe we don’t have such a horrible past. We had a lot of foreign legions go to fight on the confederate side in the American civil war also.

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BannedNeutrophil t1_j6nch3u wrote

It's not just a part of the Liverpool museum; we have the entire International Slavery Museum. It's a hard fact for any proud Liverpudlian to truly come to terms with, but some parts of our city's grandest histories were built with the blood of Africans.

Thankfully, the Penny Lane thing was disproven a few years ago. Although there are other streets in the area named after slavers, Penny Lane is now not thought to be one of them.

Liverpool was so involved with the American slave trade that the last official act of the Confederacy was the surrender of the CSS Shenandoah at our town hall. It was thought to be the friendliest place they could turn.

We are not proud of this aspect of our history.

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A_Fartful_Dodger t1_j6k14md wrote

That seems like a real snub to London.

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Seahawk124 OP t1_j6kbnxl wrote

Liverpool and the U.S., (especially New York), has always had strong ties.

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Azeze1 t1_j6kh4mz wrote

And Manchester, not to be outdone over here

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funhouse7 t1_j6k7s9m wrote

Embassy is the big official one. Consulate is like a secondary outreach one in bigger countries

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A_Fartful_Dodger t1_j6khqj5 wrote

TIL. I actually thought those were synonyms. Thanks for teaching me something!

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Duanedoberman t1_j6khsj1 wrote

Embassies are in capital cities, and consulates are outside capital cities.

I stand to be corrected, but I think the consulate in Liverpool was opened before the embassy in London.

Lots of American sailors were coming to Liverpool, and most were illiterate, hence the massive gold Eagle to identify the consulate.

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Seahawk124 OP t1_j6kokh4 wrote

>Yes, the consulate did stood on the quayside of Steers Dock and the Pool of Liverpool. The quayside is now a couple hundred yards West now. The building was decorated with a golden bald eagle, the national symbol of the United States and a reassuring sign to American sailors or travellers arriving at Liverpool docks.

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Fillertracks t1_j6kwb76 wrote

I always thought it was weird there was a Mexican Consulate in Indianapolis. when I’d randomly drive by it,”Are we a big enough city for this?”

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alphager t1_j6mmaw1 wrote

Embassies do the diplomacy between countries (and all the stuff consulates do), whereas consulates only do the people-centric stuff. You'll find embassies near the power center (usually the capital). Consulates are wherever there's a need and/or opportunity.

Many smaller countries use honorary consuls that take care of the consulate duties as a hobby.

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