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1DollarOr1Million t1_j6y8tvq wrote

That’s wind chill numbers. Not actual. Although it will be cold as tits out.

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Portland-to-Vt t1_j6zrtg9 wrote

If your chickadees and tufted tits are this cold you should consider increasing the oil content in your seed mix to give them extra calories just to keep up with their increased metabolic needs.

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Glum-Satisfaction-92 t1_j6zxp6l wrote

this comment made my day

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Portland-to-Vt t1_j72i7nf wrote

Thanks! I wasn’t sure how exactly to come at the tits and hoped people would get that chickadees are part of the same family as tufted and titmice.

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grnmtnboy0 t1_j6y9qyh wrote

All good advice, especially the part about checking on your neighbors. But let's be honest, if you haven't gotten your wood dried out by now...

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CountFauxlof t1_j6z9zj8 wrote

and how would you? your average vermonter doesn’t have a kiln or drying set up. most of us just season.

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Leeebs_OG t1_j6zdoqt wrote

I've always taken wet wood and put it over by the stove in the basement, dried out a cord in about 2 weeks

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mister_record OP t1_j6yd2av wrote

Indeed. It's just a simple PSA.

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redvis5574 t1_j71akm1 wrote

So dry your wood out because of the wind chill temp? Great PSA!

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Optimized_Orangutan t1_j6y53fa wrote

Kingdom folks: "it's just another weekend". Seriously it's NEK Vermont... Some -40 wind-chill for a day or two is cold but not brace yourself for end times cold. It's not Texas or the Champlain valley. We're good.

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CTdadof5 t1_j6ykjc2 wrote

It’s not the Champlain Valley. LMFAO. I knew there would be nuggets of gold in these comments.

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Stronkowski t1_j6zg9dk wrote

I grew up in the NEK and then went to UVM. All the freshmen there were whining about the weather and meanwhile I'm thinking "I just got off the phone with my parents and it's 10 degrees warmer here".

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Twombls t1_j6z06ia wrote

Air temp low is around -23 for st j which is pretty dang cold

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Optimized_Orangutan t1_j6z0o57 wrote

Not for st. J. Not entirely rare to spend an entire month bouncing between -10 and -20 in the NEK. It's pretty standard weather. Just extra warm this year.

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curiousguy292 t1_j6zj1sw wrote

Umm… the average low temp for St J. in January is 9 degrees. For the same month in BTV is 11.8

A month below -10 would be among the coldest months in recorded weather history.

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Twombls t1_j7006wo wrote

Nah nah. You didn't know? St j is surrounded by a magnetic vortex that makes it about as cold as fairbanks Alaska. Just not the weather station. Thats placed outside of the vortex.

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Definitelynotcal1gul t1_j731jot wrote

It's really incredible the amount of people this week who think they are absolutely sure they know precisely the high low and average temps in their city. Each one is absolutely wrong too.

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Twombls t1_j6z9q0b wrote

Not with the winds we are getting Friday though. Its actually looking like its going to be pretty impressive for new england tomorrow. Mt Washington is looking set to take the crown from alaska for all time low wind chill in the USA

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TheGoldenMinion t1_j706t71 wrote

LMFAO “It’s not Texas or the Champlain valley.” I live in Essex so I guess I’m not one to talk but it was just funny asf

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Left-Link5070 t1_j71qcju wrote

I grew up in NEK but moved to Burlington a few tears ago. This comment is fricken awesome.

People in Minnesota are looking at Vermonters the same way we look at North Carolinians whenever there is a dusting of snow.

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Left-Link5070 t1_j71p5gr wrote

Too funny. In 4 years at the academy, we had literally zero snow days. All the other schools in town would close, but not us. F you headmaster Mayo!

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Optimized_Orangutan t1_j71ptm1 wrote

My sophomore year at the Academy we got the first snow day since 1986. Two buses had to go off the road for them to partially close for the day. Those in the dorms and within walking distance were still expected to be in chapel at 8am.

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CorrectFall6257 t1_j702ziw wrote

Lmfao! Exactly we already had cold af days and nights. I'm already acclimated and going snowmobiling!

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j706vfd wrote

It’s gonna be in the -20’s. Basically it’s another February day in Vermont. Stop with the windchill shit people.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning

https://slate.com/technology/2019/01/wind-chill-warning-temperature-useless.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-is-wind-chill-real/

https://newscut.mprnews.org/2014/01/why-the-wind-chill-temperature-deserves-our-cold-shoulder/

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mister_record OP t1_j6y578a wrote

NSS.

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_j6yh71l wrote

If it’s that obvious then why’d ya post it?

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Optimized_Orangutan t1_j6ykbiu wrote

Right? What ever happened to Vermonters being stoic about the weather? Everyone runs on here everytime it's not room temperature and dry out to try and grab cheap internet points from the rest of the transplants I guess. Used to be we laughed at people getting this worked up about a little weather.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j6yzlf6 wrote

I’m still laughing, also IMO the constant reporting of wind chill instead of temperature is just sensational journalism. Like sure, there’s a windchill when you’re standing in the middle of the field, but get in the woods or alongside a building and there isn’t.

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Twombls t1_j6zzzbx wrote

Wind chill is a measurement of about how quickly the weather will kill you. It kinda matters a bit. We've never quite gotten a day in vt this cold while simultaneously having this high wind. Its definitely anomalous weather.

Most ski areas have elected to shut down for example. With winds of 50mph the woods dont really protect you

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j7055f8 wrote

Based on what, how many clothes your wearing? Your BMI? Hydration level?

I’ll be outside working all day tomorrow, I’ll let ya know how I survive. Honestly this isn’t anything spectacular. Yes windchill can matter, but I’d much rather see the actual temperatures, sustained wind speed and gusts speeds than a map showing windchill.

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Twombls t1_j705m4a wrote

Its based on a calculation of wind speed to air temperature. I find it pretty fucking useful as someone that spends time outside in the winter as a quick reference

https://www.weather.gov/safety/cold-wind-chill-chart

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j706ckr wrote

Yes, I understand what it is. I also understand that is is stupid shit for sensationalist meteorologists.

https://slate.com/technology/2019/01/wind-chill-warning-temperature-useless.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-is-wind-chill-real/

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning

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Twombls t1_j707z37 wrote

I mean yeah those articles state the obvious fact that -30 windchill /= -30 weather. It doesn't work great as an exact number. However when temperatures get into extreme lows and you add wind in obviously chances of frostbite and shit are higher.

Theres a reason why ski areas like jay are closing. They normally don't close in -20 weather. its normally cold af up there. But also -20 days here are usually still. Tomorrow is going to be insanely windy and they decided to preemptively close. Im sure they used a more scientific metric than wind chill to gauge the closing. But its much easier to say "hey -40 wind chill tomorrow we wont open"

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j708u48 wrote

Dude they’re closing because of the wind gust speeds. They would be closing if it was 20 degrees out tomorrow.

You went from saying windchill is important because it’s a metric of how quickly the weather would kill you (not at all true btw), to saying it’s just an easier way to say it’s gonna be colder than a witch’s tit. It’s okay to admit your wrong.

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GreenPL8 t1_j6yh7n0 wrote

Oh I almost forgot to dry my wood

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CallingAllDemons t1_j6yidgs wrote

Oh shit better get out there with the hair dryer.

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GreenPL8 t1_j6zc4f5 wrote

You need a wood dryer, idiot. You're not burning hair to stay warm!

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mister_record OP t1_j6yjfot wrote

Jeezum, it's just a friendly PSA. Don't get your Carhartts in a twist.

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Twombls t1_j6z0l0g wrote

Eh dont listen to them. Most vermonters are actively doing something to prepare for it. School got canceled Its actually pretty cold for VT. people on this sub are just playing the whole tough vermonter character.

Air temps are around -20 which isn't really fuck around weather.

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K9Marz919 t1_j6yoyno wrote

BREAD AND MILK! MILK AND BREAD!

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Syncope7 t1_j6zjb6d wrote

This always makes me laugh…. What’re you gonna do with it? Make some no-power French toast? 😂

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3rdcoffeecup t1_j6zhqvg wrote

Opening your sink cabinets is something I was always taught

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BothCourage9285 t1_j6ysvut wrote

Been prepared for this since the day after Thanksgiving.

More worried about my chickens, they haven't seen these kinda temps yet and aren't acclimated.

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obiwanjabroni420 t1_j6z6nwj wrote

I think my goats and chickens are going to spend the day in the barn. Meanwhile I’m gonna be out at Killington working as an ambassador on the mountain. It’s gonna be “freeze your nuts off” cold up there!

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greenmtnfiddler t1_j710701 wrote

Tall combs or rose type? Mine are in their second winter, last year I had the same worries but honestly they were fine. The ones with the tallest combs lost the very tips of the points to frostbite but it didn't seem to bother them near as much as it worried me. Adequate ventilation, block off drafts, add some fresh bedding to their night coop to make sure it's good and dry, they'll take care of the rest. Moisture management is key. .

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BothCourage9285 t1_j7410mn wrote

Got a mix of everything. They've been thru colder than this in years past, some are 7-8 years old, but they haven't had any cold at all this year.

It's not the cold, it's the 50 degree swing that will kill them

Luckily it's not gonna last

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greenmtnfiddler t1_j755a34 wrote

>7-8 years old

Apologies for assuming you were a newbie in your first year. :)

(I just talked a colleague out of digging out the infra-red heat lamp leftover from from the chick stage and setting it up in her coop tonight, hers is pretty close to the house and I really don't feel like hearing the fire sirens go off in the wee hours.)

For what it's worth, I have had friends with elderly ladies who expired gently but suddenly in big swings, so we both know it can happen - but hopefully for you it won't.

I've got one who molted wayyy late, still filling in some of the fluffy bits. We'll see, hopefully she'll get herself into the middle of the perch lineup and draw heat from her neighbors.

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BothCourage9285 t1_j7c5iue wrote

Mine all survived. Coop is actually insulated and had a thick pack on the floor. Added some fresh shavings and gave them some warm soaked scratch before lights out.

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greenmtnfiddler t1_j7d3e5p wrote

Mine too. Couple of dark spots on combs that may fade -- but if the points get rounded off a little more that just makes them more weatherproof for the next time.

My floor's got nice thick pack too - keeps them well sealed but whoo it's gonna whiff a bit when the thaw comes.

I've been wimping out on bringing out warm soaked scratch in the mornings and I'm paying for it - egg production dropped like a stone. Time to get my but in gear again.

:)

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ceiffhikare t1_j6yw3t8 wrote

These are the kind of temps that make one go from is the wood seasoned enough to if its not covered in snow/ice throw it in and i will sweep the pipe when it warms up! I dont mind a night or 2 like this, we have been seriously spoiled this year so far, its the foot of snow then a week of subzero BS that kills me.

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inimicalamitous t1_j6zuabr wrote

My gf and I booked an airbnb yurt in this area for this weekend, are we gonna die as popsicles? Any advice?

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motomary t1_j706qfh wrote

My daughter air bnb’d a yurt in NH a few yrs back, was “only minus 6 F” and they were miserable. It only had a small wood stove, wasn’t started when they got there. It took HOURS to get up to 50. They left by 6AM when the nearest breakfast place opened. But it’s all about the experience. Cancel if you can.

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inimicalamitous t1_j70d75q wrote

Lmao uh oh! It’s heated by a wood stove, but the host is gonna light the fire before we get there. Really think it’s gonna be that bad??

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Twombls t1_j700rn2 wrote

How is it heated? If its wood you gotta keep it going.

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inimicalamitous t1_j70d4fx wrote

It’s wood! The host is gonna have a fire going for us when we get there, but a bit nervous about the whole thing

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letterperfect t1_j70h9qj wrote

I know some people who lived near Denali in Alaska, in a yurt, with an outhouse for five years! I’d recommend getting a bucket.

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Faerhun t1_j6z6m8q wrote

This shit is weird to me. Like, yeah, the wind will be heavy but these aren't some crazy new cold numbers. That shit used to be normal before we fucked up the climate.

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Twombls t1_j6zc5dc wrote

The wind combined with the cold seems to be a record for new england. Its probably global warming induced. Mt Washington appears to be ready to smash the wind chill record for the usa.

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ASW-G-XX t1_j6zk0qq wrote

There should be a discord server for this kinda thing just to keep tabs on each other from the comfort of your home.

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thisisntshakespeare t1_j71v5kh wrote

Can you imagine if outhouses were still a thing? I guess people would just use “chamber pots”?

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Hillman314 t1_j6ymcok wrote

Those are fictional “wind chill” numbers based on your feelings, how hairy you are, and if you’re standing bare in the wind. Not real temperatures.

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Twombls t1_j6z0pwn wrote

Its actually not entirely sensational. Its pretty useful for like hiking or spending time in the mountains. Wind chill factor can really make a difference for getting frostbite on exposed skin

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InitiativeCrafty189 t1_j6zksb9 wrote

Im in Island Pond and it's been very cold the passed 2 days!! So not ready for that

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Usual-Cheesecake-670 t1_j6zxu0a wrote

I once skiied at Da Bush when it was -30 without windchill. It was a quiet, dead cold. Good times!

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Amplify_Love4715 t1_j751amp wrote

I once skied Killington in -15 temps when I was working there cause a friend of mine convinced me it was a good idea cause of very few people on the normally crowded slopes in those conditions. I was pretty insulted but didn’t realize my right earlobe was sticking out from under my scarf …i never felt it and I got frostbite. Just one of many bad life decisions I made in my early 20s.

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The_Kaurtz t1_j70ycdi wrote

It's a temperature that we didn't get since 13 years up here in Quebec, we might get -50 celcius with the windchill, I never seen that

Hoping for the best for those working outside

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canthaveme t1_j70do2t wrote

You happen to have that map for the whole state? Thanks

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GreenIce2022 t1_j70krj6 wrote

Two cold days! Run for your lives!!!! Or just move south.

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FoxRepresentative700 t1_j71tkwk wrote

meanwhile in Yakutsk….high -28

and that’s not even the wind chill. It’s insane how cold that town can get.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j7071k4 wrote

It’s gonna be in the -20’s. Basically it’s another February day in Vermont. Stop with the windchill shit people.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning

https://slate.com/technology/2019/01/wind-chill-warning-temperature-useless.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-is-wind-chill-real/

https://newscut.mprnews.org/2014/01/why-the-wind-chill-temperature-deserves-our-cold-shoulder/

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