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happyonthehill802 t1_j9eq1q3 wrote

When you get here, please enjoy vt for what it is, dont try to make it more like where you're from.

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canthaveme t1_j9ev4sk wrote

This is so underrated. I had some woman from NJ get all pissed because she lived next to a farm and they spread manure on the field and she called the cops and got laughed at and was super pissy about all sorts of stuff with the farm SHE DECIDED TO MOVE NEXT TO *Spelling

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happyonthehill802 t1_j9ew9p5 wrote

Happens all the time. We have a whole group of folks out of state that moved to the most remote part of our town. So remote it is on an unmaintained, previously a snowmobile trail in the winter, class 4 road.

The owners started plowing it, when the town refused, which is their right. now they want the town to maintain the road year round for them. Its crazy. You chose to buy a house on an unmaintained road, what did you expect?

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BothCourage9285 t1_j9eyp4y wrote

Agree altho this varies by town. Some towns will maintain to the last full time residence on a class 4 and some don't. It depends on how the road maintenance is addressed in the town plan or zoning regs.

Neighbor calls the state police repeatedly on my grandfathers farm for manure spreading. Not even liquid, OG bedded pack type stuff. Now he saves it all for the spring/summer/fall holiday weekends

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happyonthehill802 t1_j9f0loy wrote

Yeah our class 4s are clearly posted as pass at your own risk dec - may, unmaintained. We dont have the staff or funds to keep them all perfect.

Love granpas spite. Serves them right trying to step on an old timers source of income.

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RZRPRINCESS t1_j9f4d8x wrote

Yeah lol don't piss off the farmers! Just get used to the smell :)

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resistreclaim t1_j9g5opr wrote

I mean, they're paying taxes right?

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happyonthehill802 t1_j9gbi4c wrote

Im assuming they are, yes. Much lower taxes due to being off grid. They purchased their property knowing very well it was unmaintained during winter months, and would be kept passable but not perfect during summer months.

Trying to change things after the fact is poor foresight, and not the towns problem.

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Hell_Camino t1_j9f0fih wrote

Same with the people who bought land next to the disc golf course in the public park in Waterbury. They built big houses, moved in, and were appalled that people were using the disc golf course they’d built next to. So, they’ve been working to get the course shut down. Such assholes.

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bonanzapineapple t1_j9hz5di wrote

Ridiculous! Especially because the disc golf isn't harming them! I would be more sympathic if it was a cold fired powered plant or motorcycles at 2am but disc golf is so unintrusive AFAIK

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spitsparadise OP t1_j9f3ohq wrote

Absolutely! We are looking forward to getting away from where we live, only thing we're bringing with us is probably how fast we talk (I feel like people from MA always try to get their sentence out as fast as possible), but even that will probably go away in time haha.

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Corey307 t1_j9fjzgh wrote

So some folks from Massachusetts bought a house in my tiny little neighborhood last year. They’ve gone out of their way to not be friendly, i’ve waived them several times and they refuse to reciprocate. They have a terrible habit of slow rolling through the neighborhood and just staring at people instead of rolling down the window and introducing themselves. No big deal right? Well last summer I was on my riding mower open carrying A pistol as it is legal and my right since this is my land. They stopped their car in front of my house and both were gesturing at me and of course I didn’t appreciate that. I hear they’ve called the cops a few times on neighbors that were target shooting legally on their property.

So don’t be like that, you don’t have to be best friends with your neighbors but going out of your way to not even wave hello is some bullshit. Don’t move to a rural area and freak out because you hear occasional gunshots or because you smell cow shit because there’s a tractor in the road. Don’t freak out because you bought some land, chose not to post it and people are hiking, fishing or hunting on it because that’s perfectly legal unless you post it per state regulations.

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spitsparadise OP t1_j9fmm6n wrote

This is great advice thank you! One of the things I look forward to in VT is actually people being more friendly. Whenever I hike in VT people will say hi and strike up a small conversation. Even when I go on my "highkes" people will notice my eyes are big and laugh along and briefly share a funny story and have a short chat. I dig that! Whenever I hike in MA (like where I currently live 15 minutes from Boston), people don't even look me in the eye and it really bugs me. People are cold. I find it that although VT is a colder state, people seem warmer.

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rockstang t1_j9fzbt5 wrote

I remember seeing a guy who would do this. Everytime, it was no shirt, cutoff jeans and a Glock against his sweaty back. This was in PA. I was always curious about this. I'm not being critical, it is totally your right, but why? Is it a protection thing, advertising you're a gun owning house, or maybe just a preference to carry all the time? None of the above? Thanx and have a good day!

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Corey307 t1_j9g05a0 wrote

To start with it’s legal and it’s my land so that’s enough explanation but you seem cool. we got threats at work during the pandemic and a few people I used to know went full QAnon insane the last few years. Had one threatening to come visit me if you feel me. One of my neighbors also had a vicious pitbull they refused to leash that kept coming on my property, I’m carrying for real reason it’s not just hypotheticals. It’s extremely rare that I open carry because I don’t want to scare people and I’m not doing it to look tough or pretend I’m a cop but it was hot and it’s difficult to conceal a full size pistol under a sleeveless tank top.

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rockstang t1_j9gljg7 wrote

Gotcha. Sounds totally reasonable. If the new neighbors had taken the time to introduce themselves they'd probably have learned the same stuff. Too bad, maybe they'll come around with time. Thanx for the info!

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Corey307 t1_j9hb5jh wrote

Feels like it’s too late for that, I’ve heard they’ve called the cops on a few neighbors over them doing legal stuff but who knows.

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Necessary-Bee-8691 t1_j9fdiwc wrote

Hello fellow flatlander, and welcome to Vermont. There are quite a few of us transplants here! As others have said, don't be a dick. Listen, and be willing to learn from your neighbors. Slow the fuck down, and that also pertains to talking, driving, being patient at stores and restaurants, etc. Folks around here like to talk to each other, and sometimes it's slow, but if you choose to slow down and listen... it's meaningful.

If you want to get involved in your community, find out what's really needed, and help out, but hold back on trying to change anything or complain about stuff, you need to spend some time learning first.

Where are you settling?

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spitsparadise OP t1_j9feuuh wrote

Thanks! We're stoked to be a part of it all. Part of the reason we want to move to VT is we feel we will fit in better there as opposed to here in MA (we have friends already settled in VT and my great-grandfather / grandfather were from there so I have been up a good amount). We are laid back and appreciate a more toned down style of life. Very "Joe Pera-core" type folks (even though we're in our late/mid twenties). Every time I go hiking in VT I've noticed people actually will talk to us. We currently live in Middlesex county MA and no one even looks you in the eye on the trails! We're moving to Brattleboro. I have a job lined up in Springfield and my partner is currently applying for social work jobs. We are excited to make some meaningful connections with folks around us.

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Necessary-Bee-8691 t1_j9fk4ug wrote

Sounds like you'll be fine. My wife and I are very similar, relocated from CT, and loving VT. It pains us to go back there, all the traffic, and the people, and nobody there is very happy. I'm not saying VT is perfect, but people seem much happier here. We've made more "real" friends here in the last year than we ever had in CT.

DM me about the type of work your partner is looking for, I may have a good lead for them.

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happyonthehill802 t1_j9gyydo wrote

I was born in mass, ive been in vt for 15 years now...it'll slow down a bit. Everything is a little slower up here!

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spitsparadise OP t1_j9gzqbu wrote

We definitely see ourselves living a "slower" life. We're very laid back and value community. Living in MetroWest Boston has been pretty draining haha.

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resistreclaim t1_j9g5kkb wrote

In some ways, this sentiment is fine. Get used to manure. Don't drive like an arse. But this saying gets used in really shit ways to push against socio-political progress as well.

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happyonthehill802 t1_j9gc6q5 wrote

Well like many phrases, context is key. My point is not to try to force the people who grew up here, to live to your standards. Vermont, or at least my corner of it, is very live and let live.

To be clear, im a masshole myself. Ive been here 15 years, and get along with everyone in my town, regardless of if i agree with everything they do/say. Changing someones opinion is very hard, changing a vermonters opinion is even harder. However, it turns out if you get past politics, and treat eachother like humans, most of us have a lot more in common than not.

If you move somewhere, and dont like the way the locals do things, lead by example. Do YOUR best, and maybe they'll follow. If not i bet they'll still come pull your car out when you get stuck.

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